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Hi, im new to this but i was wondering if a S.O.G grow would be best suitable for a 2 x 1.2 x 2.4 grow tent with 2x 600w hps, and if so wot size pots should i use and how many can i put in, im currently running an 8 wilma pot system in a 1.2 x 1.2 x 2, got 7 white widow in there just started flowering, its my 1st grow so its a trial run so i can learn from my mistakes. so back to the S.O.G im not sure weather to run the S.O.G or put 2x 16 wilma pot system in there under the 2x 600w hsp in clay pebble using canna nute, any advice would be most appreciated, also if anyone can give me what to expext for an average yeild for each method would be nice! thanks.
 
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If you're SoGing, you can use flat trays and cubes. Or, you can use tubs and baskets with cubes. I spaced mine 4" apart, but it's up to how much you're going to veg first. But if SoGing, you don't want to veg too high anyways, as you don't want bushes with branches.. you want single colas, or at least single plants with minimal branching.

Look at this guy's garden, and see how close the cubes are...

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And here's a few more from from various others...

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Sea of Green (SOG) is the theory of harvesting lots of small plants, matured early to get the fastest production of buds available. Instead of growing a few plants for a longer period of time, in the same space many smaller plants are grown that mature faster and in less time. Thus, less time is required between crops. This is important to you when the electricity bill comes each month. One crop can be started while another is maturing, and a continuous harvest, year round can be maintained. 4 plants per square foot will be a good start for seedlings. 1 plant per square foot will allow plenty of room for each plant to grow a large top cola, but will not allow for much bottom branching. This is OK since indoors, these bottom branches are always shaded anyway, and will not grow very well unless given additional light and space. The indoor grower quickly realizes that plants that are too tall do not produce enough at the bottom to make the extra growing time used worth while. An exception to this rule would be if it is intended the plants are to go outside at some point, and it is expected that the light/shading issue will not be a factor at that point.

The plants, if started at the same time, should create what is called a "green canopy" that traps most of the light at the top level of the plants. Little light will penetrate below this level, since the plants are so close together. The gardener is attempting to concentrate on the top of the plant, and use the light and space to the best advantage, in as little time as possible. Use of nylon poultry fence or similar trellising laid out over the green canopy will support the plants as they start to droop under the weight of heavy fruiting tops. Stakes can be used too, but are not as easy to install for plants in the middle and back of the room, where reach is more difficult.

It is easy to want big plants, since they will produce more yield per plant, but it is usually better with limited space to grow smaller plants that mature faster and pack into smaller spaces. Sea of Green was developed in Holland. Instead of fitting 4 large plants in that small room, fit 12 small ones on a shelf above 12 other small plants. These plants take only 3-4 months to mature from germination to ripe buds, and harvesting takes place constantly, since there is both a vegetative and flowering area devoted to each, with harvests every 45-60 days.

It is not the size of the plant, but the maturity and quality of the product that counts. Twice as many plants grown half as big will fill the grow space twice as fast, so harvests take place almost twice as often. Get good at picking early flowering plants, and propagate only those that are of the best quality.

6" square containers will allow for 4 plants per square foot. You may also gauge by the size of your growing tray (for passive hydroponics); I like kitty litter boxes. ($3 each at Target) Planted 4 per square foot, (for vegatative seedlings) a 12 sq. ft. closet will hold 48 seedlings on one shelf. In my case, I use 4" rockwool cubes that fit into kitty litter pans @ 12 cubes per pan. I can get 5 pans onto a 12 sq. ft. closet upper shelf, so that is 60 seedlings on one small shelf!

For flowering indoors, 1 plant per sq. ft. is a good rule of thumb for SOG. If less plants are grown in this size space, it will take them longer to fill the space, thus more electricity and time will be used to create the same amount of product. If more than one plant p.s.f. is attempted, the grower will soon find that plants thus crowded tend to be more stem than bud, and the total harvest may be reduced, so be cautious.

It is good to avoid "topping" your plants if you want them to grow as fast as possible. It is better just to grow 2 or 4 times more plants, since they will produce more, faster, in the same space. Also, "training" plants with twist-ties is a great way to get them to bush out a bit. Just take any type of plastic or paper twist tie and wrap it around the top of the plant, then pull it over until the top is bent over 90-180 degrees and then attach this to the main stem lower on the plant. Do this for one week and then release the plant from it is bond. The plant can be trained in this fashion to take less vertical space and to grow bushier, to fill the grow space and force lower limbs to grow upward and join the green canopy. This technique takes advantage of the fact that if the top is pulled over, it creates a hormonal condition in the plant that makes it bush out at all lower internodes.

Sea of Green entails growing to harvest the main cola (top) of the plant. Bottom branches are trimmed to increase air flow under the "blanket" of growing tops. Use these cuttings for clones, as they are the easiest part of the plant to root. It is also the fastest part of the plant to regenerate after flowering has occurred.


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Meters, how would i go about doing a sog from seed, how long would i veg for? If i go with the 2 16 wilmas what average yeild would i be looking at, ive searched and searched the forums for anseres but i just cant find nothing thats why ive had to post a thread myself!:)
 
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meters. what can i expect for a average yield from each method?
 
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Doing a SoG from seed would require you keep mothers. As soon as seedlings are big enough to clone.. take clones, and sex them. Cull the males (unless you want for breeding), and either veg the clones a bit before flowering, or put directly into flower. After a crop or 2, you should have uniform sized clones all planted at once.

A 3' x 3' area should give roughly 1lb from a SoG. My 18 plant SoG had a 6 plant rotation.. harvesting 6 plants every month.. 2 to 4oz's.. strain depending. .. In my opinion, a perpetual grow is best.. don't need to wait so long for fresh bud.. especially if something happened to the last batch, only a couple weeks until the next batch. :)

A quick google would suggest 1oz per plant is what to shoot for though if vegging the clones a bit first.

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/indoor-soil-cultivation/105922-s-o-g-potential-yield.html
 
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