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No problem at all. If you haven’t read this article on VPD, give it a once over. It has really good info regarding VPD.

Will do! I just put a humidifier in there. Any idea how long it'll take before I notice them perk up? I assume a few days but wondering what you think too. Thanks!
 
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Shouldn’t take too long, just make sure you keep it in range. If it gets too high you’ll probably have the same issues. How’s your air exchange? I haven’t read your full journal quite yet but I will.

In my tent, I have 3 fans and a 4” exhaust and my humidifier is inside my tent on level 1 running 24/7 and keep my humidity between 80f 65-70% humidity with lights on and 70f 62% humidity lights off. I strive for a .9-1.1 VPD
 
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Shouldn’t take too long, just make sure you keep it in range. If it gets too high you’ll probably have the same issues. How’s your air exchange? I haven’t read your full journal quite yet but I will.

In my tent, I have 3 fans and a 4” exhaust and my humidifier is inside my tent on level 1 running 24/7 and keep my humidity between 80f 65-70% humidity with lights on and 70f 62% humidity lights off. I strive for a .9-1.1 VPD
I have an exhaust fan and filter thats on pretty low atm because I've been trying to keep the warmth and humidity in the tent. I'll probably have to bump up the speed of it after adding the humidifier. I'm running a 2x4 marshydro kit setup with their tsl2000 light.
 
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I have an exhaust fan and filter thats on pretty low atm because I've been trying to keep the warmth and humidity in the tent. I'll probably have to bump up the speed of it after adding the humidifier. I'm running a 2x4 marshydro kit setup with their tsl2000 light.
Good deal! I use the AC infinity setup and their cloud controllers are amazing at monitoring and maintaining your environment. I have automations for everything to turn off, turn on or ramp up and ramp down depending on what my readings are to make sure it’s constant.

Just something to look into 😎
 
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Good deal! I use the AC infinity setup and their cloud controllers are amazing at monitoring and maintaining your environment. I have automations for everything to turn off, turn on or ramp up and ramp down depending on what my readings are to make sure it’s constant.

Just something to look into 😎
Hell yeah, that looks awesome. I will definitely get there at some point. I have too many damn hobbies but I need to give some financial love to growing. Haha. Thanks for the help and info. I'll keep watching the rh and report back in a while.
 
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Good deal! I use the AC infinity setup and their cloud controllers are amazing at monitoring and maintaining your environment. I have automations for everything to turn off, turn on or ramp up and ramp down depending on what my readings are to make sure it’s constant.

Just something to look into 😎
What is this cloud controller you have? Can you shoot me a link? Would I need to replace my whole grow setup for something like that or can it just get the cloud monitoring and controller setup?
Thanks!
 
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What is this cloud controller you have? Can you shoot me a link? Would I need to replace my whole grow setup for something like that or can it just get the cloud monitoring and controller setup?
Thanks!
Got mine on Amazon as a bundle. The cloud controller 69 is what I use. They have RJ connectors to use diff brand of lights. As far as the exhaust I’m not sure how you’d hook that up to the monitor without using their brand but I’m sure there’s a way. I would assume you would just need to get their AC power connector
 
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Got mine on Amazon as a bundle. The cloud controller 69 is what I use. They have RJ connectors to use diff brand of lights. As far as the exhaust I’m not sure how you’d hook that up to the monitor without using their brand but I’m sure there’s a way. I would assume you would just need to get their AC power connector
Thank you! Definitely going on the wish list.
 
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Shouldn’t take too long, just make sure you keep it in range. If it gets too high you’ll probably have the same issues. How’s your air exchange? I haven’t read your full journal quite yet but I will.

In my tent, I have 3 fans and a 4” exhaust and my humidifier is inside my tent on level 1 running 24/7 and keep my humidity between 80f 65-70% humidity with lights on and 70f 62% humidity lights off. I strive for a .9-1.1 VPD
So no change at all in the droopy plants. Rh has been at 58% and 73 degrees F all day. I'll keep it going but any other ideas?
 
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So no change at all in the droopy plants. Rh has been at 58% and 73 degrees F all day. I'll keep it going but any other ideas?
Can you point a fan at the pot to help move moisture out of the soil and into the air? (I’ve only had two grows so consider the source.)
 
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Can you point a fan at the pot to help move moisture out of the soil and into the air? (I’ve only had two grows so consider the source.)
Thanks for the help! I have a fan going that's sort of positioned under the canopy area so I think it's blowing on the soil a little bit. I wish they'd react to something... been at this for over 10 days slowing trying different things but nothing is changing anything. It's a bummer.
 
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Thanks for the help! I have a fan going that's sort of positioned under the canopy area so I think it's blowing on the soil a little bit. I wish they'd react to something... been at this for over 10 days slowing trying different things but nothing is changing anything. It's a bummer.
But no worse, right?
 
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But no worse, right?
Correct, not any worse but no affect so far with anything ive done. They still look droopy and sad. No idea what's going on... 60% rh and 73 degrees for going on 24 hrs. I'll keep the environment the same and see what happens...
 
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Ok, now I'd say they're worse.... totally at a loss here. The extra rh for the past couple days has done nothing. Wish I could figure out whats wrong because I don't want my next plants behind these to have the same issue.
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Just not happy at all.
 
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Ok, now I'd say they're worse.... totally at a loss here. The extra rh for the past couple days has done nothing. Wish I could figure out whats wrong because I don't want my next plants behind these to have the same issue.
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Just not happy at all.
I think it’s signs of low O2 at the roots, the result of overwatering. Actually the growth tips are starting to look a little perkier in this photo so maybe it’s recovering. I’d feel more comfortable diagnosing if someone more experienced concurs with my opinion, though.

Might be worth repeatedly pushing a dowel or pencil down into the root ball for added root aeration.

Edit: What are the big pots sitting on? The seedling on the skil box appears to also be droopy, although overall it looks better.

Also, check out this page from another website: https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/overwatering
 
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I think it’s signs of low O2 at the roots, the result of overwatering. Actually the growth tips are starting to look a little perkier in this photo so maybe it’s recovering. I’d feel more comfortable diagnosing if someone more experienced concurs with my opinion, though.

Might be worth repeatedly pushing a dowel or pencil down into the root ball for added root aeration.

Edit: What are the big pots sitting on? The seedling on the skil box appears to also be droopy, although overall it looks better.

Also, check out this page from another website: https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/overwatering
Thanks, mothman! The way the leaves are cupping made me think over watering too. I gave them a good watering before i had to leave town for 4 days and just haven't been the same since... I let them dry out for week or so and tried to give them water after they were dried out but nothing changed. I'll try the aeration trick you suggested and see if it helps any. Glad you think they look better. Just want them to react to something...
The plants are sitting on a metal L shaped pole so there's air flow underneath them. I thought the issue was over watering originally so I wanted to get air under there. Was the only thing I could find to do what I needed.
The little plant on the box is probably due for water but I've been water shy as of late so making sure it needs water before I give it any.
 
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I hate to be a Debbie Downer but I think that even if they recover, they’ll always be impaired and yield + potency will likely reflect that. Hope I’m wrong.
 
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I hate to be a Debbie Downer but I think that even if they recover, they’ll always be impaired and yield + potency will likely reflect that. Hope I’m wrong.
I hear you... I guess I just want to know wtf happened with this grow before I start another one. I was hoping they'd bounce back then I'd just ride it out until they're looking better. Idk if they'd get root bound or anything by then but I'm willing to try.... if they would've bounced back. It's looking like these will be trash though... I'll keep trying for the next few days but it's not looking good.
 
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