scrog vs letting er go

ttystikk · Nov 5, 2013

soserthc1 said:
yea and if anything were to go down hell its only 1 plant ... even if he rans 3 no big deal and pulling 3 lbs - actually he might be the only thing close to what police estimate plants at ......lol....imagine if he ran a room of them , that would be something

Flowamasta. Look him up, he's got several threads here on the Farm. He's done some interesting things with UVB lighting, too.

soserthc1 · Nov 5, 2013

ttystikk said:
Flowamasta. Look him up, he's got several threads here on the Farm. He's done some interesting things with UVB lighting, too.

yea i remember him was from AUSSIE is I remember correctly but never went thru an entire thread - i just assumed he vegged a long time to get them insane plants but 25-30 is worth looking into - have not seem him around much lately thou but gonna cruise thru - thank you for the 411 sir /

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Jboys3 · Nov 5, 2013

ttystikk said:
There is nothing about perpetual grow operations that makes them incompatible with SCRoG techniques. I use both simultaneously to great effect!

Okay I will bite Tty...How? I believe I would have trouble moving plants from , veg room to the bloom room with some sort of contraption used to scrog the plants and keep them in place. Plus I transplant twice prior to my plants going into there 15 gallon vessel.

BTW...I don't want you laying awake at night thinking about this. LOL

ttystikk · Nov 5, 2013

Jboys3 said:
Okay I will bite Tty...How? I believe I would have trouble moving plants from , veg room to the bloom room with some sort of contraption used to scrog the plants and keep them in place. Plus I transplant twice prior to my plants going into there 15 gallon vessel.

BTW...I don't want you laying awake at night thinking about this. LOL

I ran 12 plants in 5 gallon buckets in an 8 x 8' space under 4kW of sealed and vented hoods. The plants to go in this space would come from another RDWC in my veg tent, where they would grow until they basically stuffed a 4x4 space tight right before flip- at which point I would pick them up by their netpot bucket lids, walk them into the new spot and plunk them down in a 5 gallon bucket site. My best run was 6 1/2 potatoes.

Pics or it didn't happen? Here's pics!

Bannacis · Nov 5, 2013

nice...looka the fox tails....:)

ttystikk · Nov 5, 2013

Bannacis said:
nice...looka the fox tails....:)

Yeah, that's what that strain does best. Some complain- until they smoke them.

Bannacis · Nov 6, 2013

only complaint that's worthy is when your out...:wtf:

ttystikk · Nov 9, 2013

I didn't mean to kill the conversation!

I'm no stranger to SCRoG techniques, either- I came up with the idea on my own some 25 years ago, long before I knew where to get info on how to grow good weed;

Back then it was one strain, Northern Lights- and it finished in just six weeks. I built a seven stage system tailored to the plant;
1. Clones in an aquarium- to this day, I don't clone as well now as I did then, lol
2. Put rooters into one gallon nursery cans with potting soil and amendments like bone meal and chickenshit. Topped at the end of their three week stay- every stage lasted three weeks.
3. Potted up to five gallon nursery cans, with more soil amended as above. At this point I started watering with Miracle Grow 15-30-15 @ 5ml/gal
4. Grew, topped and trained the plants to spread out wide
5. Final pre bloom veg was a tired old 400W MH in my 4' x 6' closet, where they would fill out. Each stage would see more lst and super cropping, with the end goal of a plant that stood 18" from the soil level- and was round and flat across the top and as big as a trash can lid, 30" across, with 20-30 tips each.
6. First bloom stage, this strain didn't stretch so it was what it was
7. Second bloom stage, under the same bulb as the first sitting next to them. I ran a light rotator that did a great job of maximizing light and spread on the plants.

I averaged four zips a plant, six plants, every three weeks like clockwork. In soil, with nothing more sophisticated than a lighting timer.

Bannacis · Nov 12, 2013

I here ya... about way too many years back, did the same but not same. Had a 2'x2'x8' closet and nothing but a bunch of HO floro's and one 150 watt hps. I lined every wall with floro. 6 to a wall and the 150wtr to stretch her. when the side branches came out I topped each tip carefully, just popped the nub off...no cutting.
They would branch and I would train them to wrap around itself. it would have many bud sites, and with the training and pruning, the pruning was tinning out like you do for your scrog. even canopy but in a wrap around surface.
I have seen and done the harvest on floros and leds in low wattage. Yes you don't get the yield in weight, but I have had stellar smoke that kicked butt, tasted great, smelled delish and had no complaints.
Some lst, and super cropping and giving the ladies mucho de amor and she will bless you with stinky danky sticky ickey!:woot:

ttystikk · Nov 12, 2013

@Bannacis That totally sounds like an early vertical grow setup, kind of a cross between SCRoG and trees- very cool, and definitely sophisticated! Do you remember what you'd yield and how often?

Jboys3 · Nov 12, 2013

ttystikk said:
Yeah, that's what that strain does best. Some complain- until they smoke them.

Nothing wrong with fox tails if they are tight...

Jboys3 · Nov 12, 2013

You didn't kill the thread...

I made a pvc contraption which is light enoug for me to move with my 15 gallon pot. Since I repot from red cups to 3 gallon to 15 gallon for vegging, I have decided I would wait and try[test] my scrogging skills until the 15 gallon stage.

I should have some nice shaved legs to work with and can start some aggressive scrogging for a couple of weeks before my plants move to the bloom room. I will let you know I become successful in this experiment. Kowing my skills... I will continue to bend the shit out of my plants.

iCultivate · Nov 17, 2013

soserthc1 said:
yea that man can sure veg a plant to its full potential but he gotta waste way to much time vegging ..... aint seen him around much .... but he def gives the pigs justification to estimate 2lbs a plant ......

He sure does! It's a smart way to do things where number of plants is factored into the penalty your receive if you get busted. Grow few plants, but make them count. Better not to get carried away with 50 different strains and a legion of clones, because if the cops come knocking the outcome ain't going to be pretty.

Still, I think there's more risk growing one plant indoors than a few outdoors.

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ttystikk · Nov 17, 2013

iCultivate said:
He sure does! It's a smart way to do things where number of plants is factored into the penalty your receive if you get busted. Grow few plants, but make them count. Better not to get carried away with 50 different strains and a legion of clones, because if the cops come knocking the outcome ain't going to be pretty.

Still, I think there's more risk growing one plant indoors than a few outdoors.

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Why?

iCultivate · Nov 17, 2013

ttystikk said:
Why?

What's your question?

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Tank333 · Nov 17, 2013

iCultivate said:
What's your question?

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Why's there more risk in outdoor, I think is what he's asking...

I would think it's the fact that when it's outdoor, there's no such thing as unreasonable search and seizure. If it's visible, LEO can and probably will take it down as soon as it's seen. The only difference being whether or not you live in a liberal county of a medical state... Then, you usually have a little more leeway... and then you still have to worry about thieves, too! Definitely safer to keep them bitches locked up!

iCultivate · Nov 20, 2013

My reasoning, if your plants get found outdoors, assuming you're not growing on your own property, they will not automatically be linked to you. If they get found growing in your house, that's it. Obviously each has their advantages and disadvantages, but for me, outdoors is the safer option. I'm in the same country as Flowamasta, so am talking from the perspective of the laws here and the likelihood of being busted.

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