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crimsonecho · Sep 20, 2018

hawkman said:
nice plants !!! looks like a great harvest - now the work starts (trimming,ect) your Led's are they cob ? do you make keif with the "leftovers, cannabutter is aways great - Thanks man

One cob (100w) 4 pcbs (24x5 watt diodes, ran at 60watts each) and 2 strips (75watts each). I don’t make kief, i just compost all my leftovers and throw it in the garden for tomatoes and what not, because, i don’t sell it so there is already more than enough weed at my hands :). I make tincture from my leftover abv tho.
Thanks, it looks like it will be a gooood harvest. If i don’t screw it up, hopefully :D

Monster762 · Sep 20, 2018

CrimsonEcho said:
One cob (100w) 4 pcbs (24x5 watt diodes, ran at 60watts each) and 2 strips (75watts each). I don’t make kief, i just compost all my leftovers and throw it in the garden for tomatoes and what not, because, i don’t sell it so there is already more than enough weed at my hands :). I make tincture from my leftover abv tho.
Thanks, it looks like it will be a gooood harvest. If i don’t screw it up, hopefully :D

How far along?

hawkman · Sep 20, 2018

CrimsonEcho said:
One cob (100w) 4 pcbs (24x5 watt diodes, ran at 60watts each) and 2 strips (75watts each). I don’t make kief, i just compost all my leftovers and throw it in the garden for tomatoes and what not, because, i don’t sell it so there is already more than enough weed at my hands :). I make tincture from my leftover abv tho.
Thanks, it looks like it will be a gooood harvest. If i don’t screw it up, hopefully :D

what about "side-lighting"? use 2 - 12x12 panel's used to use cfl' )100 watt) any way this has increased my yields by 15-20 % you could use the strips for side-lighting. There is talk of "under conpay" lighting to increase yields by 15%- this just started and you will be hearing about it . can give you the site?

crimsonecho · Sep 20, 2018

Monster762 said:
How far along?

24 days from the switch. 14 days from the start of flower formation.

crimsonecho · Sep 20, 2018

hawkman said:
what about "side-lighting"? use 2 - 12x12 panel's used to use cfl' )100 watt) any way this has increased my yields by 15-20 % you could use the strips for side-lighting. There is talk of "under conpay" lighting to increase yields by 15%- this just started and you will be hearing about it . can give you the site?

I feel it is best to maximize the top lighting before going into side lighting -480w now, i am thinking of building a new fixture with about 640w pull, maybe at that point i can push them a bit further by side lighting- But of course you can give me links, i always enjoy reading about stuff.

hawkman · Sep 21, 2018

CrimsonEcho said:
I feel it is best to maximize the top lighting before going into side lighting -480w now, i am thinking of building a new fixture with about 640w pull, maybe at that point i can push them a bit further by side lighting- But of course you can give me links, i always enjoy reading about stuff.

understand what you are saying; will send you some information on side-lighting peace

crimsonecho · Sep 25, 2018

I went ahead and did it. Put 2 seeds in water for my next grow.
Blueberry from DP
Purple Afghan Kush from Dinafem
They are both ordered from Dinafem
Nl and Dinachem have a long way to the finish line. The reason i started the germination of these is because i want to takes clones and grow 2 of each from single seed. That will save me some worry over ordering seeds and also some money too :) i hope they are good phenos so i can keep them as mothers.
Nl and Dinachem made me real happy in that sense. This Nl pheno is phenomenal. A nice rich smell, fruity (literally smells like bubble gum.. caramel bubblegum) but also very deep, layered and dank (it clogs my grinder everytime).
Dinachem started to smell more like feet and cheese as it cures but still very fruity, also can be considered dank. These will be kept.
After my next grow with Blueberry and PAK i am going to do some pollen chucking, hopefully if Blueberry and PAK turns out to be good phenos, they can take part in this great orgy.
Hope i can manage to get viable pollen out of the gals.

crimsonecho · Sep 26, 2018

Here some random pics of the gals. They are doing fine. Dinachem is way happier than NL this run because i am trying not to feed and it likes being pushed a bit ime. Well i think it will still give me good yields but DC overshadows the NL this turn.

crimsonecho · Oct 1, 2018

Here is another update. Gals are looking happy and resin production is very good.

Also the Blueberry and PAK broke soil yesterday. I put them with my clones and put under 2x24 sylvania grolux ho t5s. I heard they are pretty good with seedlings and clones and i had them already.
When blueberry broke soil the peat pots were positioned much lower than the clones so it stretched a bit, now it is ok it think. And clones are from NL and Dinachem. Just transplanted them with root pruning, they were not growing anymore in their little peat pots and were getting deficiencies.

hawkman · Oct 2, 2018

CrimsonEcho said:
I feel it is best to maximize the top lighting before going into side lighting -480w now, i am thinking of building a new fixture with about 640w pull, maybe at that point i can push them a bit further by side lighting- But of course you can give me links, i always enjoy reading about stuff.

just to let you know - there is a "new" way to add supplemental lighting. called "under canpoy lighting" "Maxium Yield.com" saying this can increase yields by 15-20 percent. have used side lighting from years and it does help with yields as much as 25% + - you don't new a strong light - have used 100 watt cfl's to 33 watt LED panels Great plants !!!!!

crimsonecho · Oct 8, 2018

Ok its time for a weekly update. The gals are doing very well.
Dinachem is the star of this grow. It looks so frosty and it is thick and sticky, smells very nice.
NL definitely likes to be fed because it did way better in my last grow with heavy feeding. Next time i will give it a richer soil and try it like that. Now breeder time for this is 50 days and i took it down at 60 my last grow and i am currently at 37th day give or take. We’ll see.
I don’t expect much yield this time from NLs but the aroma is just amazing. I have never smelled a weed this nice. True haven’t grown much, but i have been around and this is something different for sure. It is so deep and layered, i can almost smell “god” :).
First 2 are the DC and the following 3 are the NL. The last one doesn’t need any explanation :D

crimsonecho · Oct 13, 2018

One of the dinachems faded like crazy and it stilll has 30 or so days to go. I fed 3ml per litre of fish-mix.
This dinachem was in a brand new soil if i remember correctly. 3 of these gals were in the mix i used in my last grow (started with: WW, NL, DC finished with: NL and DC). So there was 3 pots of soil ready and i just ammended right after i took them down and planted these. I ammended the new soil mix i made for the 4th pot with the same shit and same proportions but it seems it ran out of nitrogen.
I didn’t want to feed at this point since i will want a fade like in 20 days but it was yellow as hell. Now getting greener day by day.

crimsonecho · Oct 13, 2018

Only some of the buds are dinachem (ones faded nicely :)) and in the pics with multiple plants the one on the upper right corner is the dinachem.

crimsonecho · Oct 18, 2018

Hmm dinachem is shaping up to be a pretty good plant this run. Very happy with the results. It was already sticky dank weed with a very unique smell when it was under achieving in the last run.
I am not 100% happy with the Nl so far. It seems i have to ammend my soil a bit more heavier with P and K. The calyxes seem small and didn’t swell up like the last time, but it still has 15 or so days to go. Definitely not growing to its fullest tho.

crimsonecho · Oct 18, 2018

Also dropped 2 more seeds of PAK in water. It seems the one i sprouted is a slow grower with less than optimal side branching so i will do pheno hunting amongst 3 seeds :) i will flower this 3 PAK (+1 Blueberry) and choose the best one amongst them based on yield and quality. Slow growth is not a problem for me if the weed is high in quality at the end. Just didn’t want to end up with shitty pheno that produces bad weed after spending this much time on veg.
Blueberry seems happy this time.

crimsonecho · Oct 18, 2018

Ok indivivdual bud pics go like this.
1.NL
2.DC
3.NL
4.DC
5.DC
6.NL

crimsonecho · Oct 18, 2018

Just gave NLs, 10mls of homemade banana peel fpe and 1 1/2 tbs molasses divided equally.
Will see what happens but imo, it likes these kinds of boosts. Dinachem didn’t and it is doing far better.
Will give updates.
It seems the hardest part to do only water is to correctly calculate the nute need and still get a fade.
I mean i could have used 4 cups instead of 3 but then they wouldn’t fade. Now all of them started to fade a bit but;
Nls need tiny bit more K.
One dinachem could have done better with a tiny bit more nitrogen.

I think it is going good besides these minor imperfections.

crimsonecho · Oct 20, 2018

I noticed a touch of foxtailing on my buds. Lights were close so i think this is light induced foxtailing as i have grown these strains before, i know it is not genetics.
Got my lights at 16” now and turned off the cob in the middle because i am out of vertical space.
With this setup i am getting 46K lux on the foxtailing buds and after i seen the foxtailing i took 80+K lux readings on the buds. Haven’t really given any thought to my lights being too strong.
I will post the pics of foxtailing later.
Also changed the diy project from 21 cobs to 18 cobs. So it will be 450watts total. I hope it stops before too much damage to buds.

Jack og · Oct 21, 2018

CrimsonEcho said:
I noticed a touch of foxtailing on my buds. Lights were close so i think this is light induced foxtailing as i have grown these strains before, i know it is not genetics.
Got my lights at 16” now and turned off the cob in the middle because i am out of vertical space.
With this setup i am getting 46K lux on the foxtailing buds and after i seen the foxtailing i took 80+K lux readings on the buds. Haven’t really given any thought to my lights being too strong.
I will post the pics of foxtailing later.
Also changed the diy project from 21 cobs to 18 cobs. So it will be 450watts total. I hope it stops before too much damage to buds.

How about the par value at the bud? Would be cool to see what wavelength is causing the foxtailing??

ethcan · Oct 21, 2018

Looking good, but I'm a bit worried that you don't have any support what so ever... next run get some stakes or preferably trellis on before they start creating resin, or better yet, set a net up and let them grow into it and develop a perfect canopy :-)

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