Natep said:

How big of an area do you have. I run a luxx 645 led pro. It won’t fit in anything smaller than a 5x5.

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Natep said:

You are going to want a large bar style led. Make sure it has Samsung lm301b or h diodes and is dimmable. A 12 x12 area you will probably be at 4 lights.

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BearWater said:

Nate P SMD diodes? I swore I read somewhere the phlizon uses Samsung.

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Oldchucky said:

I think you want a certain number of watts per square foot of grow area. i’m not sure how many watts, but there are certain minimum’s you don’t want to go under. You can’t make them brighter but you can always dim them. and. I would go for overkill! I’ve never seen anyone say, damn, I wish I had a less powerful light!

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Greenadian said:

Just my 2 cents.....owned a Mars Hydro and had the electrical cord melt!! Found out a few others have too on the Farm
I won a Phlizon light on here for Cyber Monday....still have never received anything.
Check out my media for an idea of what the Spider Farmer lights can do!!
I vote Spider Farmer.

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ACSippi said:

ANY light will work. Buy the cheapest one you can find, $35 Amazon Blurples will grow as good as a $1500 powerhouse. If you're on a budget take care of your enviroment first, that's where growers need to splurge, enviroment. Treat yourself to an overpriced light after you've grown a couple crops.

But I get it, ACs and Dehumidifiers arnt cool. You can grow great buds with a generic light but you  cant grow buds in a bad enviroment. Your dehumidifier should be the heart of your gro-op. Buy the best one you can afford.

Researching lights is the worst. Millions of opinions, millions of salesmen, millions of opinions by people that have only used one light and millions of first time growers heralding the brand they chose. Caught up in the hype.

If you're growing in a room as opposed to a closed tent, look into HID lights. They're cheap. They cost a little more to run but in the long run they're cheaper...it takes several  years to save money with LEDs and by that time they may turn toxic, burnt out diodes, or die leaving you buying another expensive light.

Example: say your HID costs $10 more a month to run (high estimate), that's $120 a year. How many years will it take to match the price of a new LED? 3 years for a cheap fancy LED like Spider Farmer or Mars. 9 years for an expensive LED and 15 years for a top of the line LED. Just something to think about.

Another thing to consider is LEDs don't have good light penetration like HIDs do (especially CMH). LEDs will grow buds at the top of the plant but struggle with the lowers and lower lowers. I'll add a pic of lowers grown under a HID if I have one. Then there's the heat rays, LEDs struggle to warm up your plant, that causes deficiencies. You'll need to run your whole grow room warmer, mid 80s to make up for it.

If you're confused about what I just typed just know that you don't need an expensive LED, a cheaper one is just as good.

I'm not here to argue I'm just being real. Do what you want with my information, that's your choice. Either way you'll grow some nice buds.

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ACSippi said:

Where are you growing? Closed tent, get an LED, open tent  any light will work as long as the tent is at least 80" high.

I say a $35 Amazon blurple will work because I watched a friend put 7½ ounces on an Auto Diesel, first time growing.

The thing with enviroment is it will destroy your harvest, a generic light wont.

For HIDs I'm sold on 315w CMHs but you can't go wrong with a bulletproof 250w or 400w HPS.

HPS bulbs are hella cheap $15 or so, CMH bulbs are close to $100 nowadays but you can find cheaper options that are tested and said to be as good as the Phillips bulbs.

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ACSippi said:

ANY light will work. Buy the cheapest one you can find, $35 Amazon Blurples will grow as good as a $1500 powerhouse. If you're on a budget take care of your enviroment first, that's where growers need to splurge, enviroment. Treat yourself to an overpriced light after you've grown a couple crops.

But I get it, ACs and Dehumidifiers arnt cool. You can grow great buds with a generic light but you  cant grow buds in a bad enviroment. Your dehumidifier should be the heart of your gro-op. Buy the best one you can afford.

Researching lights is the worst. Millions of opinions, millions of salesmen, millions of opinions by people that have only used one light and millions of first time growers heralding the brand they chose. Caught up in the hype.

If you're growing in a room as opposed to a closed tent, look into HID lights. They're cheap. They cost a little more to run but in the long run they're cheaper...it takes several  years to save money with LEDs and by that time they may turn toxic, burnt out diodes, or die leaving you buying another expensive light.

Example: say your HID costs $10 more a month to run (high estimate), that's $120 a year. How many years will it take to match the price of a new LED? 3 years for a cheap fancy LED like Spider Farmer or Mars. 9 years for an expensive LED and 15 years for a top of the line LED. Just something to think about.

Another thing to consider is LEDs don't have good light penetration like HIDs do (especially CMH). LEDs will grow buds at the top of the plant but struggle with the lowers and lower lowers. I'll add a pic of lowers grown under a HID if I have one. Then there's the heat rays, LEDs struggle to warm up your plant, that causes deficiencies. You'll need to run your whole grow room warmer, mid 80s to make up for it.

If you're confused about what I just typed just know that you don't need an expensive LED, a cheaper one is just as good.

I'm not here to argue I'm just being real. Do what you want with my information, that's your choice. Either way you'll grow some nice buds.

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