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haha man I am sure a ton of people are following and just not saying anything. it's cool.I'm starting to think I am doing this for you and me. I'm OK with that.
Is the science that hard to follow along?
haha man I am sure a ton of people are following and just not saying anything. it's cool.I'm starting to think I am doing this for you and me. I'm OK with that.
Is the science that hard to follow along?
I am suspicious we are early enough to catch too much cbg being converted. It looks like the ratio shifts earlier. I think whatever has been normally released has been released....which would mean a big shift would signal that thcas is being produced in a higher quantity than normal by the uvr8, perhaps?
Below are some graphs charting THC and CBG during flower under three light regimens: t5s then hps, t5s then led, and led then hps.
Agree. Could be some of it degrades by light, oxygen, etc throughout the day etc. Could definitely be other stuff.Studying those charts, I'm not finding a strong correlation between total THC and CBD with CBG. I was not expecting that. But I'm sure it is still producing CBG at the same time it is being converted to cannabinoids, so it feels like a "density" to put it in Milsonese. Getting made and used at the same time like a bagpipe.
But it seems like something else might be consuming CBG that might seem irrelevant to us but the plant doesn't see it that way. When you do the quick math on just the items in the chart they do not add up. Something else is at play.
Dennis, can you comment on this bulb?
SolarSystem UVB Replacement Bulb
UVB Replacement light made by California Lightworks. Latest generation high output UVB T5 fluorescent bulb.californialightworks.com
I would stop using silicate... ph up maybe potassium bicarb instead since you will be dropping silica. Imo no need for silica after stretch@Aqua Man , should I be using Potassium Silicate at this point in flower or PH Up? I have read heated debates in both corners. Haven't seen your take tho.
Edit: What do you think about nutes? To PK, or not to PK? I'm doing a 30 gal res change right now. It had dropped to 140PPM just prior.
Been following. Am not so much into laboratory stuff. Am more tuned in with nature. Would comment, but you guys are too smart for me. Lol would rather close mouth and appear stupid, than open it, and remove all doubt! I am testing the old-fashioned way. Smoking it, and writing down notes. And having smoker friends try it. But am totally watching your experimentation!haha man I am sure a ton of people are following and just not saying anything. it's cool.
Conflicting info abounds company to company........
Thank you for sharing!Fluence just sent me this which kinda talks about what I was saying but no data other than a few graphs which I have here..Demystifying Wavelengths Outside of PAR
Tune in to this exclusive Fluence webinar to see how using UV or Far Red treatments in your farm can affect your cultivation plan.fluence.science
I also asked them if I could get the actual data from the uv part...
Hey Dennis have you noticed any difference on the time of day to run the uv of even at night as I believe you told me that the uv is not bright enough to effect their photo period but I'm not positive..
There's 20 pics sorry if I clogged it up but it was all the main info from the hour long webinar and thought it can contribute and save some ppl time I mean there's some other stuff that they talked about not in slides and is still a great listen...
The purpose of this thread is to learn once and for all if there is any merit to this UVB. There are people firmly on both sides of the argument.
I'll finish the test and we'll see. But I can't go into this with the headspace that I already know the answer. I've searched far and wide, and all I can find are marketing claims, bro-science, and papers / tests that do not replicate the conditions that most growers use. I have never seen a series of photographs that show the amount and color of trichomes changing day by day, or incremental cannabinoid testing through the UV exposure. If it exists, I'd love to see it.
This is certainly not the be all end all test, but it should show wether there is anything to UV, and if further study is warranted. Results will need to be interpreted by the individual for their desired outcome - if CBD is destroyed while THC increases - that is a result - but one I'm sure only some will find useful in their grows. At least we will know.
I can’t really understand most of what you are doing, but I kind of understand the big picture, and I would never be able to do any of this.This is great project !!!
I think that is as good a hypothesis as I have heard. I'm gonna refrain from guessing, I don't want to get locked on to a way of thought and even subconsciously steer this test.
I'm a bit sad there is no CBD in this strain to look at right now. But I just got in a 20:1 CBD strain from Ace Seeds, I can certainly give that a try. But yes, a full complement of cannabinoids in the same plant would be ideal. I am almost to the point that I think we should be TLC testing daily to see if we can pick out the CBG being converted. I'm also interested to see when we start to develop CBN, so I may run this test past it's prime to see that result play out. At any rate, I'm taking daily samples now just in case we need to backtrack and see what happened.
I've been thinking about how to measure yield. I don't think I can do it cleanly. What is yeild exactly?If it’s going to impact my yield, I’m going to go at a snails pace with them.........
I agree, but so do all the variables. And it's not just the companies, its the growers who state unequivocally that this or that works with no evidence one way or another. That's why I'm trying to approach this the way that I am, eliminating variables, posting raw data, tweaking testing parameters as we learn more, and hopefully ending up with a clear result that may stand on it's own, but more likely will require further testing to fully flesh this UV question out.Conflicting info abounds company to company........
I'm trying!Thank you for sharing!
My prob with this study is that he burnt the crap out of the plants. Idk. Even the control plants look suspect.
I wanna see what happens when a gardener listening to the plants uses science as a starting point and just tries to grow good weed with the assistance of UV-B. Otherwise there are just a lot of trials with obvious confounding factors that render them kind of .