Sick plant? Need advice.

[Bizee]

This may be nothing but it's our first grow, and were noticing some yellow leaves. The plants still look healthy in general, with the exception of the few yellow leaves.

We use a mixed soil of fox farm and just right.
The plants are in the 3rd week of flowering stage.

During veg stage we sprayed with nitrogen but stopped once we hit flowering.

All were doing now is mixing progro bloom nutrients with water, and feed every a.m.

Here's a pic of the sick plant it's hard tell by the lighting but a few of the lower leaves are yellow and were concerned about it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated thanks.

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/202b854d.jpg

 

[cemchris]

sorry wrong acct

 

[lil miss lone]

sorry ^^^

Do you have any bugs in the room??

 

[Bizee]

Not that I've seen, or noticed, i can take a better look tonite when I get home. You talking about like fruit flies or something? Anything else I should look for?

 

[Seamaiden]

Need better pix and more information.

 

[Bizee]

Here are some better pics...Please, tell me, what type
Of info are you looking for. Elaborate. Thanks.


http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/b799fc81.jpg

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/b5ab8e37.jpg

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/e81e3d38.jpg

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[altitudefarmer]

Feeding every day? what ppm/EC are you feeding them? Feeding every day is overkill in soil. There could be toxic salt buildup in the root zones, you may have a root bug infestation, it could be a root fungus/disease, or maybe a deficiency due to pH lockout. If you're feeding every day, there is definitely not a deficiency, unless your nutrients are incomplete. I'm not familiar with the nutrients you're using. Usually adding beneficials (mycorrizhae, trichoderma) will eliminate root disease/fungal problems, and your FF soil may have had them in it already. Which FF are you using?

 

[Seamaiden]

Information such as watering and feeding schedule, what fertilizers are being used, how and how often? What pH are they being fed at? What's the progression of symptoms? Stuff like that.

I'm examining your plant and it looks off, really off. I have no answers and won't try on this one, it's something I've never seen before. I have seen some photos of plants with leaf surfaces that look bumpy like that--mosaic virus is what was supposed.

 

[Bizee]

Yeah we water everyday, we tested watering
Every other two days and the plants began to droop, then tested watering
Every other day, plants were a little more lively but still
Droopy then we watered every am, and they were lively all the time.

It could be over feeding though,
Because when we were testing the feeding when we were feeding
Every other day the soil was bone dry, when we felt
The soil this morning it was still moist. When normally before it would have been dry.

We used Azamax last night just incase it was bugs.

Also as far as the ec/ppm feeding levels. I don't understand that question. This is our first grow and were still quite inexperienced, everything has been going
Fine until now.

As of right now all we have been doing is using the pro gro bloom nutrients mixed as directed with water every am.

As far as room temperature On average temp is around 75 humidity is 55

Thanks everyone for taking the time out to help. It's greatly appreciated.

Here is a link of the nutrients we use





We used Azamax last night just incase it

 

[jon]

ph of the water?

 

[Seamaiden]

EC = electrical conductivity, and can be measured as such when chemical salt fertilizers are used, not so useful with organic fertilizers.

PPM = parts per million.

If you can't measure it you can't measure it. Shall we assume you're feeding according to package instructions, then?

 

[Bizee]

Yes we are feeding to package Instructions, and as for
The ph of water we haven't gotten that far advanced yet, dint have a ph meter as everything was going fine until now.

 

[Bizee]

Here are some updated pics it's getting worse :( I think the ladies are dying.
Please help!

Droopy

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/f3107fdf.jpg

Droopy 2

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/f3107fdf.jpg

Yellow and dying leaves leaves Also have brown spots

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/f5758c44.jpg

Another shot of brown spotted leaves dying

http://i35.invalid.com/albums/d163/RickyBizee/d645ac5c.jpg


Thanks again in advance I'm freaking out.

 

[Seamaiden]

That plant is going downhill pretty quickly. Seems to make sense to take a look at the rootball, inspect undersides of leaves thoroughly, and now I can't remember your medium, but I would also perform the following test (it's a cannibalization from other testing methods I've found for testing soils):

Take equal parts distilled or RO water (0EC/ppms) and media, mix thoroughly in a clean container. Let sit for 5-10 minutes, then strain well (you're testing for ppm/run-off, want to be sure it's not measuring other particulate matter), test for pH and EC/ppms.

I can't state unequivocally it's the most accurate method, as there are other accurate methods using specific meters or probes, but it's what I've hit on that has helped me diagnose issues that turned out to be lockouts.

At this point *you* need to rule out all options and the roots need examination. Check the media closely as well, make your observations and take plenty of photos with good lighting, focused and not blurry and then we go from there. If you find a lot of dead root material, that's going to require further examination, which could kill an already obviously stressed plant. You might be able to take cuttings if this is something you really need to save, but I can't say whether or not they'll take well.

I hope others chime in here, but in my opinion nothing more can be said until certain parameters are known. I *would* back seriously off the feed for now, just water.

 

[Bizee]

Ok took a couple leaves to my local hydroponics shop for him to inspect, and also showed the guy pics.

He looked at it under a microscope and came to the conclusion that it was a fungus, and the spots on the leaves are rust.

Overall he said the plants seem ok and he made it seem like it wasn't a huge deal.
Because it's just a couple fan leaves that are being effected. He said the buds and most of the plants are still real green.

So he gave us zero tolerance herbal fungicide and we also got a ph testing
Kit.

I wanted to see what you Guys input on that was.

 

[Bizee]

Ok here's another update as far as the ph level.

We use either distilled or purified water.

Ph level without nutes is 8.0 on both distilled and purified

And ph level with nutes mix is about 6.5 on both types of water.

Dug down in the soil a bit to check roots, they all look white in appearance.

Hope this info helps out some please let me know if u need anymore info from us.

Thanks
Guys