Soak and paper towel method?

GNick55 · Oct 11, 2021

i find soaking the seeds with h2o2 and water about 5-8% strength for about 10 hours, don’t matter if they sink or float, crack or not.
while soaking i’ll get a tiny shot glass solo cup, holes in bottom, i’ll fill with a promix with a bed of peat for the seed.. the peat i’ll let soak in the same peroxide mix in a different glass, till expanded, take off net and make a bed. 10 hours later give or take i’ll scoop out seed with spoon and place on bed and cover with more peat and promix.
put seed about an inch deep.
put in grow area with heating mat plugged into timer to come on when lights in and off when lights off to simulate nature..
hopefully i didn’t forget anything.. to this day this method has been 100% for me, some seeds up the next day but usually all up latest 5 days..
and this way you won’t touch the seed/sprout at all..
i’ve did all other methods and to me they all suck!..,

growsince79 · Oct 11, 2021

Rickcin said:
Your right! I did a few seeds in the basement in P Towels and they have tails after 24 hrs. How soon can I plant these and it would be good if they could go directly into their 5 gallon pots, is that okay

Planting into a 5 gal pot is just asking for problems. You might as well just pray for failure. Please God make my plants suffer and fail.

Rickcin · Oct 11, 2021

GNick55 said:
i find soaking the seeds with h2o2 and water about 5-8% strength for about 10 hours, don’t matter if they sink or float, crack or not.
while soaking i’ll get a tiny shot glass solo cup, holes in bottom, i’ll fill with a promix with a bed of peat for the seed.. the peat i’ll let soak in the same peroxide mix in a different glass, till expanded, take off net and make a bed. 10 hours later give or take i’ll scoop out seed with spoon and place on bed and cover with more peat and promix.
put seed about an inch deep.
put in grow area with heating mat plugged into timer to come on when lights in and off when lights off to simulate nature..
hopefully i didn’t forget anything.. to this day this method has been 100% for me, some seeds up the next day but usually all up latest 5 days..
and this way you won’t touch the seed/sprout at all..
i’ve did all other methods and to me they all suck!..,

Excellent, thank you!

Ponky · Oct 11, 2021

I go from seed to ⅛th tray square pots. They grow in there until they're about 10 inches. Have nodes. Then they go into 5 gallon square pots to finish. My climate is well controlled and it works fine with my lights.

Rickcin · Oct 11, 2021

growsince79 said:
Planting into a 5 gal pot is just asking for problems. You might as well just pray for failure. Please God make my plants suffer and fail.

Haha, don’t want that! What about the biodegradable Jiffy pots

Ponky · Oct 11, 2021

Rickcin said:
Haha, don’t want that! What about the biodegradable Jiffy pots

Good luck moving those around. Hate those things.

frogyrogy · Oct 11, 2021

Ponky said:
If I don't the little leaves die. Literally just help it fall off. Don't remove it.

Just plant your seeds a bit deeper, and don't worry about turning the root down. It's the seedling's turning and pushing through the media that removes the seed coat. Plant too shallow and helmet head shows up.

PizzaBob · Oct 11, 2021

frogyrogy said:
Just plant your seeds a bit deeper, and don't worry about turning the root down. It's the seedling's turning and pushing through the media that removes the seed coat. Plant too shallow and helmet head shows up.

Yes and it’s a work out that will benefit the plant for its beginning life.

mancorn · Oct 11, 2021

Ponky said:
If I don't the little leaves die. Literally just help it fall off. Don't remove it.

Hat head will happen when you plant the root facing down. If the root is facing up, it does a 180 and then sweeps the seed head up through the dirt which normally dislodges the casing. However once you get a big root then this isn’t a good idea, the root doesn’t seem to turn and will sometimes pot up. I just crack and drop in dirt with the barely visible root pointing up.

growsince79 · Oct 11, 2021

PizzaBob said:
Heat and humidity.

The paper towel method which I’ve done can creates weak stems and can stunt growth if not done perfectly.

Never heard of that happening ever. Sounds like something you might see on the fake news -copy and paste - regurgitated misinformation - internet weed sites. LOL
Paper towels ftw.

Ponky · Oct 11, 2021

The one time I grew a seed upside down it grew into a U shaped stem that went back into the soil. Never grew and leaves. Didn't die. Was a horrible distorted monster. I played with nature and it put me in my place.

mancorn · Oct 11, 2021

Ponky said:
The one time I grew a seed upside down it grew into a U shaped stem that went back into the soil. Never grew and leaves. Didn't die. Was a horrible distorted monster. I played with nature and it put me in my place.

I’d guess the root was too long. When they get long they do all the twisting around (like some of these) and too late to plant up. Better imo to drop in dirt right after it cracks (normally when you get up in the morning

Ponky · Oct 11, 2021

mancorn said:
I’d guess the root was too long. When they get long they do all the twisting around (like some of these) and too late to plant up. Better imo to drop in dirt right after it cracks (normally when you get up in the morning

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The long bois work fine.

growsince79 · Oct 11, 2021

I usually start twice as many as I need and plant them all at the same time 0-1/4 inch long. The late poppers get thrown away.

Rickcin · Oct 11, 2021

growsince79 said:
I usually start twice as many as I need and plant them all at the same time 0-1/4 inch long. The late poppers get thrown away.

That makes sense but I’ve read lots of conflicting instructions on how long the tails should be and how and when to plant them, from 1/8 inch long to 3/4 inches long and then directly into the 5 gallon pot. It’s like there’s unlimited techniques that growers claim are the best, it’s crazy!

on my very first grow, I just planted seeds into peat pellets in a dome under the lights on for 18 hrs and they grew just fine. Now I’m trying the paper towel tail and I’m skeptical as to which technique is simplistic and yields the best results. The more I read, the more conflicting information I come up with!

growsince79 · Oct 11, 2021

Rickcin said:
That makes sense but I’ve read lots of conflicting instructions on how long the tails should be and how and when to plant them, from 1/8 inch long to 3/4 inches long and then directly into the 5 gallon pot. It’s like there’s unlimited techniques that growers claim are the best, it’s crazy!

on my very first grow, I just planted seeds into peat pellets in a dome under the lights on for 18 hrs and they grew just fine. Now I’m trying the paper towel tail and I’m skeptical as to which technique is simplistic and yields the best results. The more I read, the more conflicting information I come up with!

Try a few ways and see for yourself what works for you. For me peat pellets suck. 1/8-3/4 is fine. Or just plant as soon as they pop. Doesn't matter. Proper container size matters a lot.

Rickcin · Oct 11, 2021

growsince79 said:
Try a few ways and see for yourself what works for you. For me peat pellets suck. 1/8-3/4 is fine. Or just plant as soon as they pop. Doesn't matter. Proper container size matters a lot.

Yeah, I guess your right since there’s no right or wrong way and I get it with the container size. Confusing is the root direction but as others have said, if it’s deep enough, it will turn and correct itself before appearing as a Helmet Head

Imzzaudae · Oct 11, 2021

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Rickcin · Oct 11, 2021

Imzzaudae said:
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Thank you!

mancorn · Oct 11, 2021

Roots have special cells that have little granules that float around in them (like a snow cone), which tell the root which way is down. So when you leave a sprouted seed on a plate the root can’t go down and starts searching for a downward path by growing back and forth. This is a waste of time as you want your roots going deep, not growing side to side. It’s not really a big deal if the root is up or down (since it will quickly reorient). More important that it can go down and isn’t left on a flat plate for days searching around for the downward path.

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