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Soil will not dry out need expert advice... again!!!

Frego Jul 12, 2021 68 Replies 12,856 Views
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I have put more holes in

I was going to do the sides but I read you get a uneven water and a bunch other stuff I can’t remember

it took me like 2 hours to do the extra holes and a lot of sweat, it was a frustrating time but tomorrow I may do 1 inch from the base with a hot bike spoke
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2 hours?? Next time use a drill and 1 inch spade bit
 
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Added Holes....I think he has a pot of mud that won’t drain anymore.
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It is slowly drying in the mean time will water less

was following advice on ‘ How to water’ saturate the whole top... which I will not be doing again

my first grow only autos so 3-4 months will Have a. next shot at it

who knows this grow could right the history ‘you can grow weed in mud’
 
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2 hours?? Next time use a drill and 1 inch spade bit
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Yeah I might buy a drill tomorrow if I see one cheap enough

oh I did 16 pots was such hard work brother every time the scissors touched the wet soil they would cool off and had to wait a few mins on the stove to warm up
 
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When you read the article on pot size and shape did you get the part where your pot holds water, even with holes in the bottom?
Your pot has a water table and you have to get rid of it. Drill the sides. Your soil is crazy thick, but if you drill out the sides, and flush 50 gallons thru it, you will have drainage.
 
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Yeah I might buy a drill tomorrow if I see one cheap enough

oh I did 16 pots was such hard work brother every time the scissors touched the wet soil they would cool off and had to wait a few mins on the stove to warm up
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I don't know where you live but I bet if a Walmart is nearby you can buy a small cordless and the spade bit for less than $25.

If you have a pawn shop nearby just go buy a $5 corded one. It will last forever
 
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When you read the article on pot size and shape did you get the part where your pot holds water, even with holes in the bottom?
Your pot has a water table and you have to get rid of it. Drill the sides. Your soil is crazy thick, but if you drill out the sides, and flush 50 gallons thru it, you will have drainage.
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And no more soil after a 50 gal flush, lol. Sorry I’m stoned and I made myself laugh.
 
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FourPlants said:
I don't know where you live but I bet if a Walmart is nearby you can buy a small cordless and the spade bit for less than $25.

If you have a pawn shop nearby just go buy a $5 corded one. It will last forever
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OMGoodness.... Hot scissors?! You are a determined one! Well done. Now go to walmart and get a cheap cordless screwdriver for the house with a small pack of popin drill bits.
You will spend a minute or less per pot.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stalwart-25-piece-4-8-Volt-Cordless-Screwdriver-with-LED-Light/
 
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And no more soil after a 50 gal flush, lol. Sorry I’m stoned and I made myself laugh.
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Yeah, but you know what I meant.
 
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When you read the article on pot size and shape did you get the part where your pot holds water, even with holes in the bottom?
Your pot has a water table and you have to get rid of it. Drill the sides. Your soil is crazy thick, but if you drill out the sides, and flush 50 gallons thru it, you will have drainage.
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Thanks for the help
Tomorrow I will take the plunge again
And navigate my tight space and extract 16 heavy pots around obstacles to
Gently blow side holes all around my extended self..in the form of pots..
 
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Thanks for the help
Tomorrow I will take the plunge again
And navigate my tight space and extract 16 heavy pots around obstacles to
Gently blow side holes all around my extended self..in the form of pots..
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You can do it. If you can do the hot scissor thing, this will be a cakewalk.
 
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OMGoodness.... Hot scissors?! You are a determined one! Well done. Now go to walmart and get a cheap cordless screwdriver for the house with a small pack of popin drill bits.
You will spend a minute or less per pot.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stalwart-25-piece-4-8-Volt-Cordless-Screwdriver-with-LED-Light/
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I wouldn’t wish it on my enemy I must of lost 5stone doing that, by the end of it I was naked squatting on the floor poking hot scissors through pots Carefully navigating the hot scissors around the swinging dong
 
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couple things, one, just have a bit of patience. everything is not a crisis.

next, to help things along the way you want to raise it off the floor a bit, then point a fan at the pot, the air will help dry the medium. do not add water till it needs water, the plant doesnt know about your half a pot watering plan, it wont like it. only ever water when it NEEDS water.

read this by @Aqua Man watering-how-media-pot-size-shape-and-environment-affect-it

then, when you up pot next, use a bag pot and add the perlite

and on a final note, why did you pick manure and organic potting soil? you studied the mediums and chose this one, why?

it has the stuff the plant needs, but you start off wanting to manually add stuff like cal/mag and upping ppm... you might want to rethink this choice, it wont like your methods. if you use coco, you can make her eat and drink on your schedule, but with organic soils and manure there are things in there that need to be considered. sort of like your plant is living in a food fantasy and then you stuffing mcdonalds burgers in there and wondering why they dont like it. then the burgers rot and things go haywire and you will be left wondering wtf.

beware when all and sundry start you worrying over ph, the soil you are using probably has a buffer so it will make the ph somewhere between 6.3-6.5, no matter what you do to it, and the stuff you use to alter it might not get along with the stuff they use. most speak of ph as it applies to coco or soilless (things like flushing and measuring runoff dont really apply like they do in other mediums), but soil changes things up for you. when you say "organic" soil, what exactly is it? i think all soil is actually organic till you/they stick stuff in it. what stuff is in it? was the manure aged? was it store bought?

till your plant is about 4 weeks old it shouldnt need any of those things you want to force on her no matter what soil. someone mentioned the first little leaves, they are looking at them and telling you they are still green so they are still helping your plant along and you dont need to add things to make her mad.

learn how to water by picking the pot up. you dont need to atlas it over your head, but just reach down and tug up on both sides, you will notice right away if it is light or heavy. do not water at all till it is light like sawdust. then water slowly, letting it soak in, till a drop or two come out the bottom.

i just noticed they are autos, watch out, doing things to her she doesnt like will slow her down and have a bad effect on yield.
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This.... if the pots heavy it doesn't need watering. Push the probe to the bottom so you can see when the saturation zone is starting to dry... then water. It's all about the saturation zone read that thread again and again
 
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I wouldn’t wish it on my enemy I must of lost 5stone doing that, by the end of it I was naked squatting on the floor poking hot scissors through pots Carefully navigating the hot scissors around the swinging dong
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Yeah, the drill will be a cakewalk.
 
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You will spend more time charging your new drill then you will actually drilling your pots it will be so easy.
 
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Yeah, the drill will be a cakewalk.
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I’m buying one tomorrow that’s for sure!!
 
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Save your sanity. Next time get fabric pots and forget it.
 
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Save your sanity. Next time get fabric pots and forget it.
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As someone who has ran fabric, terracotta, and plastic at the same time in my veggie garden I prefer fabric. I have less issues plain and simple
 
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This.... if the pots heavy it doesn't need watering. Push the probe to the bottom so you can see when the saturation zone is starting to dry... then water. It's all about the saturation zone read that thread again and again
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Glad your here aquaman jewilly
I watered 5 days ago
I’m baseing this all on my moisture meter and heavy pots
The top half is dry the top soil is dry
The bottom half is still wet by the meter but it has moved today the needle, so it is drying out very very slowly,

3 days after I watered I did poke more holes in the bottoms and elevated the pots from the drip tray
It’s day 5 since last water

tomorrow I will be drilling holes in the side following everyone’s great advice

aquaman I keep reading brother everyday, I’ll keep reading again and again till I know it off by heart
 
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Glad your here aquaman jewilly
I watered 5 days ago
I’m baseing this all on my moisture meter and heavy pots
The top half is dry the top soil is dry
The bottom half is still wet by the meter but it has moved today the needle, so it is drying out very very slowly,

3 days after I watered I did poke more holes in the bottoms and elevated the pots from the drip tray
It’s day 5 since last water

tomorrow I will be drilling holes in the side following everyone’s great advice

aquaman I keep reading brother everyday, I’ll keep reading again and again till I know it off by heart
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So with that media and dry time it tells me with that media you will benefit from taller and smaller pots for this size.

But they will grow into them. It's OK if the top is dry... not ideal but ok. The important part is to let the saturation zone dray back a bit before watering again. Then water slowly and evenly.
 
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I wouldn’t wish it on my enemy I must of lost 5stone doing that, by the end of it I was naked squatting on the floor poking hot scissors through pots Carefully navigating the hot scissors around the swinging dong
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Your killing me.
 
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