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My friend priced a portable system like this good for a house and 3000 watts HID.It was 7500.00.At my electricl costs it would pay itself off in 2 yrs.My husband and I are definitely looking into doing this.I will post a link to the company when I'm home...peace
I will jump in now I am currently putting together a solar system here is a list of what i have picked up already I bought most for 70 cents on the dollar shopping around ebay and craigslist everything is new. except the batteries
2 outback gvfx 3648 inverters $2K retail about 4K
Outback MX60 $350 500+ new
outback hub4 $75 125 new
outback mate2 $200
flexwear 1000 electrical panels and mounts $1000
12-Surrette Rolls 4-KS-25PS 4V DC, 1,900AH @ 100HR Deep Cycle Solar Battery
paid 3K for the set 3 years old cost 18K new
I still need to buy panels this is going to be a 7K system 7200 watts 48 Volts
the cheapest panels i found Ar Kyocera or Kaneka around 99 cents a watt if you buy by the pallet
http://sunelec.com/
in 2011 you will Be able to sell Excess power to Utility Companies Here In Southern California. I'am A Certified PV Installer, It Is possible To Install a 6k System On a house For Wayyyyy Less Than $100K... After Incentives & Rebates You'll Be looking at about $3 Per Watt. Residential Systems Could Pay for themselves in 10-15 years. Imagine If you Grew your Own medicine with one It could easily pay for itself In 1-2 Years. Wind Turbines Need too Much open Space To operate efficiently, anyone Looking to Grow using a Solar System Should Go with either an BiModal system ( Using Batteries for storage + Grid Capapbilities) or Go Completely Off-grid With a Standalone System. Being that Soon enough we will be able to Sell power back to the grid I prefer Going BiModal. You never know when U will have a system problem and Could always use the Grid as back up. If Anyone Wants to Know More or has any Projects Coming up that they Need Help With or Looking to get done PM me.
LOL again a 7k system will not run 7k worth of HPS. It doesnt work like that. Do the research.
Anyone have any suggestions or ideas about setting one up with about 6 k worth of HID light? if money was no option what would it take for an ideal efficient set up?
I've done a little research into a totally off the grid setup, which I hope to one day achieve (realistically, not one day soon). And as someone else mentioned, fuel cells seem to be the most reliable method considering our particular hobby requires that energy be available on days when there is no sunlight. A backup generator would help, but that seems crude and inefficient over the long term. But a reversible fuel cell uses solar power to produce hydrogen through an electro-chemical reaction, then the created hydrogen is stored in a tank, then the hydrogen is used to fuel the house's electrical needs. You can also use propane in place of solar to provide the initial electricity needed to generate the hydrogen. Wind as well. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with some of "Uncle Fester's" chemistry methods, but what's happening in the generation of hydrogen in the fuel cell is similar to the electric methods he uses in the newer additions of his book, ie, placing a specific type of metal into a specific liquid solution and running electricity through it to produce the chemical reaction. Fester is just aiming for a different end product.
Some large facilities are already using this type of fuel cell and generating the electricity from a dedicated propane line run to the unit, and I hear claims that they spend about 30% on propane of what they paid for the straight electricity. Not sure how solid those claims are. I've seen some companies offering home units that run off propane. It's not inconceivable that someone with the funds and interest could have such a unit modified to run off their solar or wind source. I've got a few books on the technology and it makes interesting reading. I could build one if I could find companies willing to make one-off prefabs of some of the needed components.
Here's a YouTube video showing a small unit in action and the guy gives a little explanation of how it works. Cool stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LiPl9ITuT4
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