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Something is missing but don't know what?

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Im about 5 weeks in veg just did a defoliating 4 days ago with a lst and feel like something is missing also I think they should be stretching a little more can be wrong since is my first grow will like to have a little help with guidance thanks

 
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Defoliation is for ripening cotton. Cutting healthy leaves off vegging cannabis is a bad idea.
 
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Defoliation is for ripening cotton. Cutting healthy leaves off vegging cannabis is a bad idea.
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I'm cutting fan leaves only not new grow leaves is still bad ??
 
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I'm cutting fan leaves only not new grow leaves is still bad ??
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Fan leaves are like solar panels and batteries for the plant. The only thing I would cut at this stage is the very bottom leaves that won't amount to anything.
 
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Fan leaves are like solar panels and batteries for the plant. The only thing I would cut at this stage is the very bottom leaves that won't amount to anything.
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Ok so don't cut top fan leaves just bottom ones
 
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They look healthy, what do you mean by something is missing?
 
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They look healthy, what do you mean by something is missing?
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Like what my next step will be ?
 
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debatable nothing wrong with defoilation mate,my question is why do you wont them to stretch in veg stage?
they will double once you flip to flower the plants look great seems you did good job with the lst,but if you really want the things to stretch all you have to do is move the light up then they will get lanky stems,you want squaty plants move light down,when you flip to flower this is one way to control stretch,because in those 3 weeks of transition your gonna be amazed how they can stretch and like most us in tents your gonna scramble to keep them managable.
but defoilating nothing wrong with it and you will see the shit just keeps coming back
 
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debatable nothing wrong with defoilation mate,my question is why do you wont them to stretch in veg stage?
they will double once you flip to flower the plants look great seems you did good job with the lst,but if you really want the things to stretch all you have to do is move the light up then they will get lanky stems,you want squaty plants move light down,when you flip to flower this is one way to control stretch,because in those 3 weeks of transition your gonna be amazed how they can stretch and like most us in tents your gonna scramble to keep them managable.
but defoilating nothing wrong with it and you will see the shit just keeps coming back
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Can you show me a controlled study that proves defoliation increases yield? I can't find any. Just bro science.
 
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debatable nothing wrong with defoilation mate,my question is why do you wont them to stretch in veg stage?
they will double once you flip to flower the plants look great seems you did good job with the lst,but if you really want the things to stretch all you have to do is move the light up then they will get lanky stems,you want squaty plants move light down,when you flip to flower this is one way to control stretch,because in those 3 weeks of transition your gonna be amazed how they can stretch and like most us in tents your gonna scramble to keep them managable.
but defoilating nothing wrong with it and you will see the shit just keeps coming back
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Ok so should I defoilated 1 more time 2 weeks before flipping to flower? And when is the time to flip to flower?
 
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Ok so should I defoilated 1 more time 2 weeks before flipping to flower? And when is the time to flip to flower?
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Just cut off all the leaves now and see what happens
 
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Just cut off all the leaves now and see what happens
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I just did 5 days ago when I did lst
 
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Like what my next step will be ?
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No I mean, you seem to think there is some kind of problem, but I don't see one. So I was wondering what you are concerned with. I wouldn't bother solving non issues, but LMK if I am missing something.
 
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Can you show me a controlled study that proves defoliation increases yield? I can't find any. Just bro science.
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dont give two shits about studies mate i work from experience,some times first hands on is more productive,in a small ass tent how hell you get proper light to your soil and bottom buds with 8 inch fan leaves?
wait i have that answer for that more light right,there it is more sales gimmicks,i do very well for myself in a 2 x4 x5 tent with a 400 watt hid light,i could careless about sq ft crap and all the science crap that goes with it,you are telling the op you cant im saying you can,you called me out ,so here it is ,dont you call it bro science? mate i been growing probally before you was born and my methods are hands on,all your science stuff has one purpose only that is to convience you to buy more crap to mimic the sun and imitate ideal environment guess what there is only one way for that it called outside were the stuff is happening and it free.
so what we have here is a agreement that we both disagree leave it at that ,calling folk out because you disagree is a bit childish dont you think i even went back to what i wrote and i see not a thing one calling you out.
so hey mate take your science study and sit on it,put some hours in and then call folk out with your proof there is a difrence because my expereience has me cutting them and 2 weeks later im cutting there ass again,when they are showing flowers i then leave um be,so take it as it is,your method difrent,who to say your not growing in ideal conditions like a science lab were every thing is controled if so it that a ton of money for just growing a weed?
later mate argue with some one else
 
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dont give two shits about studies mate i work from experience,some times first hands on is more productive,in a small ass tent how hell you get proper light to your soil and bottom buds with 8 inch fan leaves?
wait i have that answer for that more light right,there it is more sales gimmicks,i do very well for myself in a 2 x4 x5 tent with a 400 watt hid light,i could careless about sq ft crap and all the science crap that goes with it,you are telling the op you cant im saying you can,you called me out ,so here it is ,dont you call it bro science? mate i been growing probally before you was born and my methods are hands on,all your science stuff has one purpose only that is to convience you to buy more crap to mimic the sun and imitate ideal environment guess what there is only one way for that it called outside were the stuff is happening and it free.
so what we have here is a agreement that we both disagree leave it at that ,calling folk out because you disagree is a bit childish dont you think i even went back to what i wrote and i see not a thing one calling you out.
so hey mate take your science study and sit on it,put some hours in and then call folk out with your proof there is a difrence because my expereience has me cutting them and 2 weeks later im cutting there ass again,when they are showing flowers i then leave um be,so take it as it is,your method difrent,who to say your not growing in ideal conditions like a science lab were every thing is controled if so it that a ton of money for just growing a weed?
later mate argue with some one else
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Chill dude. I'm not calling anyone out. I simply asked if you knew of any controlled study that proves one way or the other if defoliation increases yield. I can't find any.
 
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Ok so should I defoliated 1 more time 2 weeks before flipping to flower? And when is the time to flip to flower?
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i defoliate 2 weeks after flower for last time,but ya if you just defoliate wait about 2 weeks before you flip the lights im telling ya them plants gonna double in size.
i re looked at your pic,yep wait a week or so then flip your plants will stretch almost up to that net you have up there be right around 3 1/2 ft tall even you work your light right.
your gonna have to walk your light to control them from getting to tall mate when they stretch your gonna see that what you just took off doesnt matter it will double back.
that said i have even finished off buds with no leaves at all last 2 weeks i took all leaves off and they still fatten up,let science explain that shit hahahh.
hey do what you want it your gear this forum is for all suggestion and method but i live in texas,i have a tent in a utility room with no ac or heat i grow weed with forced wind only so thick ass leaves in my tent dont flyin no time at all i get pm with all the foilage even with extra fans in the tent,so your call mate good luck
 
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Chill dude. I'm not calling anyone out. I simply asked if you knew of any controlled study that proves one way or the other if defoliation increases yield. I can't find any.
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hold up, me chill, bro you threw this up,i believe in god,can i prove there is one ? no i cant, can you prove to me there isnt one?
comes down to opinions mate we all have them it would be boring if all was the same, the op asked we both gave one ,you pull up a prove me sign on his thread,make your own for folks to argue about it believe me just as lights and nutrients,there are tons of thread doing just that
 
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Here's a good read https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/community/photons_corner/to-defoliate-or-not-to-defoliate/
 
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Hey jay , the something that is missing is " nothing " your plants look great
 
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Hey jay , the something that is missing is " nothing " your plants look great
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Thanks man
 
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