Spider Mites (Help!)

squiggly · Dec 5, 2012

Capulator said:
ENJOY!

Welp, I suppose it had to happen one of these days. The borg have invaded, and they threaten my prize genetics (as well as a harvest coming up in 2ish weeks).

Cap, what is your recommended application method for both:

1. The bonsai mothers (save my FPOGs!!!!)

and

2. The flowering plant (she's a runt, only about 2 foot tall--was flowered for sexing purposes but she smells so dank that I'd like to save her if possible).

Beyond that, does anyone have any recommendations on how to clean my room (foggers/chemical burns out of the question)? My shit was at another location where this infection was picked up--I received it all back today and my heart dropped when I discovered the little buggers.

These came from a larger garden--and I've found VERY few actual mites, there are eggs EVERYWHERE, though--no webbing as of yet but leaf damage was pretty significant on the flowering plant (though relegated to about 7-8 leaves on top).

I'm devastated to have brought these fuckers into my newly (re)constructed room. What are everyone's recommendations for sterilizing the room is my biggest concern here. I'm confident I can pull some clones and save my genetics--I just need to make sure I don't stick myself in a futile cycle here.

The walls of my room are lined with panda plastic (glued on) so really I just need to know which chemical will murder these fuckers in the face.

I'm hoping I didn't bring too many live mites with me (I only found 1-2 floating around the petiole of a badly affected leaf on one of my moms)--and that perhaps I can catch these fuckers mid-cycle before they hatch and shit my room up.

UNITEDGROOVES · Dec 5, 2012

Mighty Wash is what you need... I would spray everything down including the pots, soil, and the surrounding area, and the leaves on your moms or veg plants.... And its safe to use, no nasty chems.. Last time I had spider mites I used mighty wash and i haven't seen them since.. A bit pricey but well worth it..

Peace.

619ster · Dec 5, 2012

I do like me some Mighty Wash!! I've dealt with mites for more than I'd care to mention, but Mighty Wash will knock 'em down if they haven't yet invaded. Dr. Doom fogger (not sure how you feel about that) will handle the rest of what you miss with Mighty Wash. In conjunction, those two will get the job done IME.

sanvanalona · Dec 5, 2012

O.k. Squiggly I can help you here. First you are going to want to use that mighty wash only on the flowering one, but if you are only 2 weeks away I would say fuck it just ride it out on that one. Not much you can really do on that last 2-3 weeks without causing residual flavors on the flower, ime. For your clones that are still alive and in veg I strongly suggest a 360 spray bottle (the nozzle can be turned up) and then three applications (and fucking thorough applications) 3-5 days apart of something like azatrol or azamax, you may want to add something else in the middle as well say a dose of mighty wash. Next, all of your clothing and bedding should be washed, carpets cleaned and room bleached if possible.....(keep in mind ideally you want the plants out of the room for a couple of days while using bleach). After all that some steady work for a little while is all that is necessary. I have eradicated mites a few times by using floramite, that shit is very gnarly though and only needs one application......unfortunately I have heard that there are negative residuals from floramite so maybe stay away. Good luck, mites are never fun but they can be controlled without throwing your genetics and entire room away.

Classic Remix · Dec 5, 2012

Anybody has experience with the Bayer fruit and vegetable? Toxic as all hell, I hit my plant s with t and for years had zero bu problems whatsoever. It's a systemic, I only ever hit my moms with it, but thanks to this a little effort and luck I have yet to see a single bug on anything that that has ht with. Takes 7-8 weeks to fully flush so if you hit clones with it makes sure you veg em for a week to be sure.

And I swear that stuff makes your plants look like they are on steroids. The greenest possible and look happy.

JMO

Classic Remix · Dec 5, 2012

And it's like 7 bucks at Home Depot. Lol

Seamaiden · Dec 5, 2012

We need a facepalm smiley. Squigs, I don't know how you feel about using a product that doesn't actually say what its ingredients are, but I personally am not into it. I'd like to suggest using plant essential oils, a water:isopropyl alcohol mix, or a combination of the two--applied every three days for two weeks.

The water:iso mix is usually started off at a 1:1 ratio if you're using 91% iso, higher if it's 71%. If you're growing at some scale then the iso method can get expensive unless you buy iso by the gallon, or even better by the 5gal.

The plant essential oils is using about 5 drops of each pr almost any combination of, the following per gallon:
Rosemary oil
Thyme oil
Citronella oil
Clove or clove bud oil
Lavender oil (also extract, though I personally have never had enough dried or fresh lavender to make sufficient extract for the scale at which I have used these methods)
Peppermint oil
Spearmint oil
Coriander oil

There may be oils I'm missing, I pretty much made it smell pretty, mixed it in my towable tank sprayer (I put it in the cart I tow with our lawn tractor) along with a bit of Dr. Bronner's or any vegetable oil-based soap (it is only these soaps, not detergents, that break through the offending pest's exoskeletal fatty cuticle layer) to help keep things emulsified. And the beauty of this mix is that it keeps for days to weeks, you just have to get it back into emulsion.

Yes, it takes some diligence, but it is by being lazy humans that we've created a serious set of problems for ourselves, and we shall all be hoist by the same petard.

pork · Dec 5, 2012

Forbid will get rid of them..nastier than Mighty Wash, and certainly this nice looking oil mix from Seamaiden...But, if its war, its war...

GR33NL3AF · Dec 5, 2012

I've battled them for months but with consistant oil spraying it keeps them at bay. I do have a room now that with steady CAPS bennies (watered in) I've only had to spray 2-3 times and I havent seen any in weeks.

Does anyone know what Mighty Wash is made from? Is it just Oil?

KennyPowers · Dec 5, 2012

i havent *knock on wood* had mites since mighty wash has really been around so cant speak to that but it sounds like great stuff. i am really carefully when entering/exiting and also use a spray regimen of sm90, teas, H16 PFN, Silica, Sea Green, etc.

Forbid....Forbid....Forbid. i can speak to that. you are a smart guy so i have no doubts in your ability to read and follow the directions. do it proper, use it on moms/vegging plants, and take care of your mite problem right quick. its trans-laminar too, so only need to get it on the top of the leaves. not a systemic though, i hit with 2 sprays a couple years ago. will obliterate mites/eggs in all stages of life.

im a paranoid fucker so id be bombing the rooms too. you know what they say about an ounce of prevention..

as for the flowering girl no experience there. maybe a high dose of co2 to knock them back? not something ive done myself but threads are around about it.

Ohiofarmer · Dec 5, 2012

a home-made flamethrower always works, guarenteed

baba G · Dec 5, 2012

Azamax at 30-40ml/gal with equal amount of Dutch Master Saturator, spray every 3-5 days, spray your young cuts and tear off all foliage that is low down onthe plant and hard to spray the bottom of. Dunk if they are small and then go to spraying!! Spray the bottoms intensely than the medium and last spray the tops of the plants. I've never used a bug bomb and been doing this half my life. Essentially lazy spraying versus good tactical proper spraying makes the diff...and clean your moms!!! Cut them back and start spraying!!

baba G · Dec 5, 2012

fyi, I can go through 2-4 gallons for only 6 lights when plants are fairly small...I drench em and make sure you got 6-8 hours of darkness after spraying them before lights come back on and make sure the lights are far enough, some strains burn easier but 30ml/gal of azamax has never had bad effects, ime

baba G · Dec 5, 2012

or spider mite predators if you wanna go that route...

Ohiofarmer · Dec 5, 2012

You can also use forbid....it should erraticate them and keep them gone, however make sure you only use it on the clones and mothers you haven't budded yet and just let the girl in bloom keep goin if ya hafta chop early then thats a small price to pay. and azamax works good ^^^ but it definatly leaves a taste on the buds, so again i wouldn't spray down the girl in bud. just my 2 cents

Take it easy

baba G · Dec 5, 2012

Ohiofarmer said:
You can also use forbid....it should erraticate them and keep them gone, however make sure you only use it on the clones and mothers you haven't budded yet and just let the girl in bloom keep goin if ya hafta chop early then thats a small price to pay. and azamax works good ^^^ but it definatly leaves a taste on the buds, so again i wouldn't spray down the girl in bud. just my 2 cents

Take it easy

Would never spray a nug with Azamax, you can't do anything to treat a flower basically, except vacuum them off or manually remove.

caregiverken · Dec 5, 2012

GR33NL3AF said:
I've battled them for months but with consistant oil spraying it keeps them at bay. I do have a room now that with steady CAPS bennies (watered in) I've only had to spray 2-3 times and I havent seen any in weeks.

Does anyone know what Mighty Wash is made from? Is it just Oil?

I have been spraying Neem, then Peppermint, Then Lavender oil for a couple months now too.
they just keep coming back

last week, I broke down and bought a lifetime supply of floramite sc (8oz)

Seems to have worked..:cool: (Mother room)

I have spotted 4 or 5 praying mantis cocoons in my garden outside...maybe I should bring one in and hatch it...lol ;)

caregiverken · Dec 5, 2012

Mighty Wash is Just water

I think it might be safe for flowers

Capulator · Dec 5, 2012

Hang the flowering plants whole and put a fan on them from underneath. All of the mites will gather at the trun in a few days. You can them spray them with rubbing alchohol to put a big dent in the main infestation.

CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN. Spray everything in the flowering room down with physan @ 1 tblspoon per gallon. USE PROTECTIVE GEAR with physan.

Forbid 4f is the best thing IMHO to "murder those fuckers in the face". I would not spray anything on the flowering plants, but you can treat your clones with it and your mothers now that you have wiped out the main colony on your flowered plants.

After that, wait a week and then treat weely with the foliar pack tea and you should not have any more problems.

The borg arent so bad as long as you aren't lazy about it.

PM me for the forbid. Its expensive and not worth buying a lifetime supply for 300 bucks. 0.6 mL per gallon I believe is the dose. You really don't need much. Treebark tested residuals on it and there were none in the finished product.

Capulator · Dec 5, 2012

caregiverken said:
Mighty Wash is Just water

I think it might be safe for flowers

No. Its FREQUENCY WATER.

Actually, its got some kind of oil. I think cottonseed. They don't label it because they arent required to as long as they dont make any real claims...hence the ambiguous phrase "mites suck"

Spider Mites (Help!)

Spider Mites (Help!)

squiggly

UNITEDGROOVES

619ster

sanvanalona

Classic Remix

Classic Remix

Seamaiden

Living dead girl

pork

GR33NL3AF

KennyPowers

Ohiofarmer

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

Ohiofarmer

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

caregiverken

Fear Not!

caregiverken

Fear Not!

Capulator

likes to smell trees.

Capulator

likes to smell trees.

Spider Mites (Help!)

Spider Mites (Help!)

squiggly

UNITEDGROOVES

619ster

sanvanalona

Classic Remix

Classic Remix

Seamaiden

Living dead girl

pork

GR33NL3AF

KennyPowers

Ohiofarmer

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

Ohiofarmer

baba G

bean sprouts are tasty

caregiverken

Fear Not!

caregiverken

Fear Not!

Capulator

likes to smell trees.

Capulator

likes to smell trees.

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