Stainless Steel Undercurrent - WG

neverbreak · Oct 14, 2013

lookin good bro. do ya have a manufacturing background? those tubs are pro!

neverbreak.

Wavegem · Oct 15, 2013

ttystikk said:
Put a layer of insulation board across the top of each of those sites and it will make a noticeable difference, perhaps a bigger one than doing the sides- which looks great, btw!

If you're not in hydroton, what medium are you using? I AM having a bit of trouble with stall and I'm trying to narrow down causes.

I insulated because the buckets condensate so bad that algae piles up on the floor. When the room is packed there is no way I can clean it. Also will help chillers. Capulator posted this method using coco a while back and I have used it all the time. Keep your water level below the coco. Ppm low, if they curl up, ppm are to high. Little to no stall.

All4freedumb said:
What up Wav! Thanks for posting, that room looks great!! I am have started my girls in my net pots with coco and hydro ton mix before entering the UC for this next round. Is this what you did and it worked good? I have been wanting to try this method and just dropped my ..... well hydroton... ;) this method if works good should be great for crown feeding as well, I would think..

You got it, this works awesome for me. I never had a problem, just keep your water level below the coco and feed everyday like regular coco 1 week roots will start hitting the water. Be careful you don't want coco clogging you pumps, but if that happens take a wet dry vac open your filter on the return line and suck all that shit out.

monkeymun said:
Subbed.

Love your work WG. What wattage are those verts? That room is going to go off!!

They are 600s, sorry for any confusion.

stickyfing3rs said:
you change out the uni seals for bulkheads this round wave? I noticed the stainless flanges inside the bucket, what ya goin goin on there man?

Good eye. When the buckets were manufactured, the wrong type of uniseal was used. There are snap in and press in uniseals. Different hole size and one of them is not water tight. So I replaced them with the right uniseal identical to current cultures, but I had to build a flange with a gasket for the right hole size.

Wavegem · Oct 15, 2013

neverbreak said:
lookin good bro. do ya have a manufacturing background? those tubs are pro!

neverbreak.

Haha they are polished to perfection lol. My dad owns a big shop, 3 lasers, aisles of press brakes, welding stations look like cubicles in an office, polishing, assembly, shipping. They do between 5 and 10 mil a year in business. They mainly build commercial kitchen equipment and stainless doors for casinos, restaurants, hotels ect..
Although most of this equipment was built there, my dad has no part in this business of mine, he is on the side lines rooting for me and running his company.

In a couple years I plan on utilizing this resource to help build custom equipment for serious growers. I sat down on one of my buddies uc buckets and cracked the lid, I laughed and knew stainless is the answer.

Wavegem · Oct 15, 2013

If any of you guys fly into Miami international airport on American Airlines you can see my work. There are glass blocks that line the walk ways, we manufactured and installed the stainless casing that looks like waves in an ocean.

neverbreak · Oct 15, 2013

that's awesome bro! yer very lucky to be in such a situation. never seen anything like those tubs. guaranteed lifetime of use! did ua make em yerself or get them custom done in the factory?

neverbreak

ttystikk · Oct 15, 2013

I'm still slumming with plastic tubs. I was under the impression the bulbs inside the water jackets were 1000W? Is that not correct? I read above they are 600 instead? What are your plant center measurements? I'm helping a friend build a room and if course we'd like input from the best people on the Farm. We're trying to decide between vertical thouies our 600s, or maybe a mix of both...

Wavegem · Oct 23, 2013

Bubblegum chem

Strawberry lemonade

Sour dawg
Pheno1

Pheno2

End of week 1
* all that white stuff is bennies I forgot to strain before I sprayed

Amber · Oct 25, 2013

Awe I always get so stoked when I see that you have posted in this thread. Still passionately pursuing purchasing power for the other passion?

Capulator · Oct 25, 2013

when are we gonna see a stainless steel netpot?? :D

ttystikk · Oct 25, 2013

Capulator said:
when are we gonna see a stainless steel netpot?? :D

...and airstones. Where are the stainless steel airstones, connected with braided steel lines?

budm · Oct 31, 2013

ttystikk said:
...and airstones. Where are the stainless steel airstones, connected with braided steel lines?

...and stainless steel cages. ;)

ttystikk · Oct 31, 2013

I'm forgetting what other endeavor he's doing this to fund, but if he started fabbing up and selling stainless growing gear, he might be able to retire!

monkeymun · Oct 31, 2013

There would be some good money in it!

Amber · Oct 31, 2013

ttystikk said:
I'm forgetting what other endeavor he's doing this to fund, but if he started fabbing up and selling stainless growing gear, he might be able to retire!

There is just something about the stainless and retirement I tell ya.:writing:

Amber · Oct 31, 2013

To answer the question though composing music

All4freedumb · Nov 5, 2013

I know I've wanted one since the day I saw them... Update and maybe some porn for the eyes? I wanna see what the roots look like in that machine..

Amber · Nov 5, 2013

I wanna see what the roots look like in that machine..

Don't we all.

Wavegem · Nov 11, 2013

I have a theory I put into practice that would like to share with you guys. I am calling it the "D" valve. I have not seen this anywhere.

All the undercurrent guys will benefit from over sizing there pump and putting a gate valve on the return before the epicenter. The idea is 2 methods of dialing the nutrient uptake at different plant sizes. First with mixing nutrients and second slightly closing the d valve until plants uptake the perfect ratio. Boom. Then you increase flow as plants get bigger. I am still working on it but from what I have found the faster the water the lower the lower feed and sometimes you can be too fast, especially at young ages.

What do you think?

* we should know not to close the valve enough to burn the pump out.

ttystikk · Nov 11, 2013

@Wavegem I think I would like to hear about your idea in more detail, at the moment I'm not following your line of thinking.

I'm building out various versions of an airless (no pump, no stones) aeration system using the water pump that recirculates RDWC water. Is this akin to what you're doing?

Wavegem · Nov 11, 2013

It's very simple. You calculate the amount of water going to each bucket per minute. Using you pump size. Undercurrents chained from one bucket to another so the amount of water exchange is much greater than the same pump size and buckets with an mpb system. On the output of the pump before the epicenter I put a gate valve and can dial in how much water is circulating. The idea came because I have such a massive pump rated 3-4 times more powerful than what current culture recommends.

Stainless Steel Undercurrent - WG

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