Study finds pesticides transfer to marijuana smoke

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chickenman

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DUH!!!!
Same as what we eat, pesticides don't know when to stop killing.....
It's the so called industry, profit before what's good for we the people, so like anything else if you want it done right.....DO IT YOURSELF!!!!
That's why we took matters into our own hands so we know who, how, where, as much as possible our food comes from.
just this morning I called a fellow chicken farmer with a much larger operation about a new source for non gmo feeds that are way better than what they are using.
I went on and on in a coffee induced rant about the benefits of this feed, I use the same formula.
She asked me why I called her, what's in it for me. I explained this is my passion, were all in this together and this new outfit is just what we need.
So if you want clean do it yourself or find a trust worthy farmer......Still ranting, that second cup was strong.....
 
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With such chems transfering so readily, it makes me wonder >what else< could be on/in all of those warehouse plants (or any plants/food) grown in the Denver metro area where high pollution levels/particulates/toxic soup in the air are a daily event.

LOL CM..... I bet that fatty had somethin' to do with the rant as well:cigar:
 
caveman4.20

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One way or another we must become aware and if we need to be safer then that should be a given I'm going to end up eating and quit smoking and vaporizing ....it seems like theirs no way around accepting the harm along with the benefits
 
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shamelss plug!
Excuse my brainfart but how is this a good thread fir that plug? These threads that just popped up in the last couple days are suggesting that burning and inhaling pesticide is harmful ....I'm assuming that includes benificial fungus and bacteria
 
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I think that pesticide contamination is the most needed form of scientific advancement in this industry. From my experience there is a tremendous difference in residual pesticides left in bud between indoor and outdoor, as I assume the sun works more effectively/efficiently at burning off the left over pesticide but I am very curious about what levels of what pesticide are considered harmful, and to what degree are they harmful. If anyone else has any information on any of this I would love to know!
 
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Excuse my brainfart but how is this a good thread fir that plug? These threads that just popped up in the last couple days are suggesting that burning and inhaling pesticide is harmful ....I'm assuming that includes benificial fungus and bacteria

The beneficial fungi and bacteria in ogbiowar packs cannot survive in the human body caveman. It is a physical process that eliminates insects and bad fungi, not a chemical one. We are looking at natural remedies to take the place of synthetics that have half lives.

I felt my shameless plug was very relevant. For example for RA you can use the foliar pack instead of Merit 75. For whitefly you can use the foliar pack instead of Forbid4f. For pythium you can use the root pack instead of fongarid. Etc. etc. etc.

These products can be used safely as they pose no risk to humans.

Biopesticides, biofertilizers, and biofungicides are definitely the way of the future concerning sustainable agriculture.
 
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The beneficial fungi and bacteria in ogbiowar packs cannot survive in the human body caveman. It is a physical process that eliminates insects and bad fungi, not a chemical one. We are looking at natural remedies to take the place of synthetics that have half lives.

I felt my shameless plug was very relevant. For example for RA you can use the foliar pack instead of Merit 75. For whitefly you can use the foliar pack instead of Forbid4f. For pythium you can use the root pack instead of fongarid. Etc. etc. etc.

These products can be used safely as they pose no risk to humans.

Biopesticides, biofertilizers, and biofungicides are definitely the way of the future concerning sustainable agriculture.
Trust me I LOVE me some compost teas and I foliar with the best of them and that's gravy for edibles but the studies are describing the harm in burning and inhaling those beneficials not eating them and I never read that or considered it until a few days ago when these threads popped up from the same article coming out of Humboldt.......this is one of three threads discussing this concern
 
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The beneficial fungi and bacteria in ogbiowar packs cannot survive in the human body caveman. It is a physical process that eliminates insects and bad fungi, not a chemical one. We are looking at natural remedies to take the place of synthetics that have half lives.

I felt my shameless plug was very relevant. For example for RA you can use the foliar pack instead of Merit 75. For whitefly you can use the foliar pack instead of Forbid4f. For pythium you can use the root pack instead of fongarid. Etc. etc. etc.

These products can be used safely as they pose no risk to humans.

Biopesticides, biofertilizers, and biofungicides are definitely the way of the future concerning sustainable agriculture.


Do you have anything that is helping with spider mites? broad mites? It seems to me that we are at a crazy place in concern to pest infestation within cannabis strains, these pests seem to require some gnarly methods in order to control/ kill, it seems you are working towards this direction and I am just super curious about your results.
 
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Trust me I LOVE me some compost teas and I foliar with the best of them and that's gravy for edibles but the studies are describing the harm in burning and inhaling those beneficials not eating them and I never read that or considered it until a few days ago when these threads popped up from the same article coming out of Humboldt.......this is one of three threads discussing this concern

Caveman I did not see in that report where they mentioned beneficials, but I will look in to this further... although IMHO smoking anything is not good for you. The human lung was not designed to breathe smoke. By burning plant material you are also burning all the trace elements you are feeding with such as iron, copper, etc. Also, many plants (I am not sure about cannabis) will concentrate heavy metals. Strawberries are an excellent example of this as they readily concentrate lead, which is poisonous.

I am a big fan of edibles. Even though they do not provide the immediate relief that smoking does, I feel it is a much safer method of ingestion.

Do you have anything that is helping with spider mites? broad mites? It seems to me that we are at a crazy place in concern to pest infestation within cannabis strains, these pests seem to require some gnarly methods in order to control/ kill, it seems you are working towards this direction and I am just super curious about your results.

I think that @organicozarks can speak on the broad mite issue as I think he had success with the foliar pack using it at frequent intervals.
 
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although IMHO smoking anything is not good for you. The human lung was not designed to breathe smoke. By burning plant material you are also burning all the trace elements you are feeding with such as iron, copper, etc. Also, many plants (I am not sure about cannabis) will concentrate heavy metals.
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With all due respect cap if you find out how harmful incinerated bennies are to breathe in please inform us i know it's the consumers responsibility but as conscious as you are and as much data available to you from a business standpoint you may find that the bennies in your packs may be least or not as harmful as other accumulated plant materials hell some of your shit might even minimize what ever indeed is harmful
 
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I'm fairly certain most bacteria and fungi related to plant maintenance are not able to sustain life once the plant is dried. I imagine carbonized bacteria imbedded in plant matter is not any more damaging than the plant matter itself, unless it is a bacteria known to react adversely in the human system. While freebasing caps powders is probably not good for you- pretty sure all his stuff is quite benign to ingest
 
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Any lung specialist here at the farm? Wouldn't a specialist forum be cool to pick their brain.
I'm fairly certain most bacteria and fungi related to plant maintenance are not able to sustain life once the plant is dried. I imagine carbonized bacteria imbedded in plant matter is not any more damaging than the plant matter itself, unless it is a bacteria known to react adversely in the human system. While freebasing caps powders is probably not good for you- pretty sure all his stuff is quite benign to ingest
Natural therapy what up. How you been? Thanks for chiming in I know your an intelligent Intellectual. I trust your guess this just got a lil intense I think I'm leaning more and more towards edibles I just need to find something that replicates a smoking high lol
 
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I'm fairly certain most bacteria and fungi related to plant maintenance are not able to sustain life once the plant is dried. I imagine carbonized bacteria imbedded in plant matter is not any more damaging than the plant matter itself, unless it is a bacteria known to react adversely in the human system. While freebasing caps powders is probably not good for you- pretty sure all his stuff is quite benign to ingest

Yeah if you think about it there are bacteria, trillions and trillions of them.. everywhere, and we are breathing them in 24/7. Bacteria were the first complex organism that came from the ocean to create dirt, for plants to live in. I am pretty sure that by mass they are the most abundant organism in the world.
 
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Natural therapy what up. How you been? Thanks for chiming in I know your an intelligent Intellectual. I trust your guess this just got a lil intense I think I'm leaning more and more towards edibles I just need to find something that replicates a smoking high lol

Maintaining, thanks.
I love edibles and couldn't live comfortably without them- but nothing compares to smoking in my personal experience of cannabis. Vaporization doesn't take me where I want to go, but even a few hits off a bomber never fails.

Met an interesting dude through a friend, he gave me a little pipe to try. It's a one hitter filled with charcoal and a little cotton filter, said to catch the nasty compounds added through the growing process

He also had a bong which actually made sense as a product, but all I could think of is how much it sucks to need such a product from a consumer standpoint- if not a medical one. I guess the lesson is, grow your own, or find someone that does it right and pay them what they deserve
 
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