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I checked out a video on making your own lactobacillus serum. Good info, but it will take time to make that stuff...I just started a new grow with fox farm ocean forest (3 parts) to happy frog (1 part), bc a friend suggesting it as being a good out of the box organic soil mix. My question is I know there is food in there...Should I feed it anything besides ph’d water right now, or? I ordered some ogbiowar in the meantime to do an organic grow
Never seen a guano 15+ in P...... care to share?
Bone meal is not soluble. A good reason why Monopotassium phosphate is a great booster.
Banana peels, really? I can't even imagine the work that would go in, and the number of bananas to feed an acre crop. I imagine you would have to break down the peels first, but how? What exactly is your method here?
Yea, like I thought. The banana thing isn't a viable option for 99% of farmers. Maybe the home back yard guy with 3 plants.....
Bone meal even with "lacto" will take a long time to break down into plant soluble nutrients. This is pretty common knowledge......
Chemistry in soil makes all the difference. I suggest you read books from leading agronomist such as William Albrect and Tiejens. All this number stuff will make sense once you comprehend farming a little better.
Everything in the soil comes down to two things, biology and chemistry. Good luck.
I checked out a video on making your own lactobacillus serum. Good info, but it will take time to make that stuff...I just started a new grow with fox farm ocean forest (3 parts) to happy frog (1 part), bc a friend suggesting it as being a good out of the box organic soil mix. My question is I know there is food in there...Should I feed it anything besides ph’d water right now, or? I ordered some ogbiowar in the meantime to do an organic grow
How do you use the stinging nettle?Right now i got banana peels (great weight booster), alfalfa (triacontanol and all the goodies) and stinging nettle (perfect for veg) ready and going and doing a aloe vera (amino acids, hormones, enzymes etc.) and a fermented bat guano (flower booster). I got my line set up :D
Next gonna do a fermented flower extract. Picking all the flowers i can find and cucumbers are very nice for that, also the lollipoped flowers from cannabis will go into it. Also looking into ohn. Keeping myself busy.
Yea, like I thought. The banana thing isn't a viable option for 99% of farmers. Maybe the home back yard guy with 3 plants.....
Bone meal even with "lacto" will take a long time to break down into plant soluble nutrients. This is pretty common knowledge......
Chemistry in soil makes all the difference. I suggest you read books from leading agronomist such as William Albrect and Tiejens. All this number stuff will make sense once you comprehend farming a little better.
Everything in the soil comes down to two things, biology and chemistry. Good luck.
How do you use the stinging nettle?
I’m a huge fan of whatever works for the situation. Be it organic or minerals. I find organic interesting in that you can find so many sources and in my opinion save money on nutrients. It’s not just plant based obviously.
I’ve seen larger scale farms that use biodynamic farming and other stuff on large scale too. Like I said I’m a fan of organic obviously but I’m not opposed to doing what I need to to suit my situation.
Respects,
Dex
What a weird world, i concur with bulldog. If you grow in soil get some soil tests done and apply scientific based approaches. Traditional agriculture and methods have a whole lot to offer the cannabis grower.
Ferments are a cool idea and have a bunch of uses, but bulldog does operate on a pretty large scale and has a point it would be difficult to apply to acres. You could do it of course, but I would think it woul be time/cost prohibitive and wouldnt really be a worthwhile, people arent going to pay more a unit because it is "more" organic.
I already said, the only reason i can think of using chemicals is they’re convenient economically and doesnt require any labour. But people use imo, emo and faa and ohn and any natural farming agent actually in a large scale. Fermented stinging nettle is not some miracle cure that canna growers came up with, it is an agent of french traditional farming. If you have a big enough drum, you can purchase the heads and the bones and the insides of fishes from the market and pickle them in sugar, voila, you have fish amino acids. Fish fertilizer. Whatever you have growing near you, take the growing shoots for veg, take the flowers for flower. Ferment it. Easy and free..
I posted that info about stinging nettle and French farmers here on the farm long ago. Like I said me and other farmers threw a lot of info into this thread here...I’m going back over it all because it really was a lot of information.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...nd-making-your-own-nutrient-line.18772/page-5
I posted that info about stinging nettle and French farmers here on the farm long ago. Like I said me and other farmers threw a lot of info into this thread here...I’m going back over it all because it really was a lot of information.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...nd-making-your-own-nutrient-line.18772/page-5
You can start using that when? I have seedlings like a week to 2 weeks oldAs a npk fertilizer diluted 1 to 500 and a foliar spray as a plant tonic diluted 1 to 1000.
I guess I’m trying to figure out how to not burn or overfeed these new seedlings. Using organic soil I understand there is food in it, I just was curious what the threshold is as far as feeding the nutes to soon in a medium like that...You can start using that when? I have seedlings like a week to 2 weeks old
I guess I’m trying to figure out how to not burn or overfeed these new seedlings. Using organic soil I understand there is food in it, I just was curious what the threshold is as far as feeding the nutes to soon in a medium like that...
Totally backwards thinking. If that’s what you think fpe are you are the one who should be reading. By using enzymes, microbes, etc we are breaking down the nutrition inside of plants making some readily available.
To know which plants to use for what situation is all on you.
If this couldn’t be done large scale it would be irrelevant mostly but it’s been being used on farms for years as a way to not only save money but also use what’s near you to grow organically.
P can be had by roasting eggshells and leaving in vinegar for some time. It’s all there saved for anyone who wants to do the work. It is work, but not a lot. Biggest part is the know how.
https://alohagambia.wordpress.com/2...oluble-calcium-and-calcium-phosphate-wca-wcp/
So? If it doesn’t apply to you is it useless? You dont utilize it but i do and so could you. Just takes a little bit of effort. There is more than one way to grow.
If your objective is to prove that one way is superior to another, that is just an endless conversation that will not contribute anything to a forum and this thread is not the place.
You can supplement ionic feeds to your crops, thats your call. Again organics is not about that npk numbers to begin with. Those numbers don’t give you absolute values of what plant is getting. There are many more aspects to an organic soil than just adding 40 this and 15 that.
I will not go into a full blown debate on this, to each his own. If you want to learn more read about KNF and see how many people utilizes that philosophy in their acres and acres of space.
Fyi; you break down bone meal seperately and bottle it as a liquid nutrient so once you finish the process you’ll always have ready to use and readily available liquid bone meal. This is done prior to a grow. Self sustainability is a good thing.
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