Totally backwards thinking. If that’s what you think fpe are you are the one who should be reading. By using enzymes, microbes, etc we are breaking down the nutrition inside of plants making some readily available.
To know which plants to use for what situation is all on you.
If this couldn’t be done large scale it would be irrelevant mostly but it’s been being used on farms for years as a way to not only save money but also use what’s near you to grow organically.
P can be had by roasting eggshells and leaving in vinegar for some time. It’s all there saved for anyone who wants to do the work. It is work, but not a lot. Biggest part is the know how.
https://alohagambia.wordpress.com/2...oluble-calcium-and-calcium-phosphate-wca-wcp/
Dude, I was roasting egg shells for my worms 20 years ago...... I found adding vinegar to break down the shells creates too acidic of an input for my worms, or cannabis for that matter. I found grinding the egg shells in a grinder into a fine dust, and applying that is far more effective. Let the microbes break the egg shell down, and not the acidic vinegar. On top of that, I add 6 egg shells a day to my 1 yard of worm bins I keep in the garage during the winter. When those castings are done, I still add a butt tone of calciums and P. If you are trying to grow a plant with egg shell inputs, your plants will be very hungry.
Can you explain how "By using enzymes, microbes, etc we are breaking down the nutrition inside of plants making some readily available." I always though when growing organically, we allow microbes to break down organic food and the root exudates pull that raw form up as nutrients. How are you breaking down nutrients "inside" the plant?
Those books I recommended talk all about how nutrients are taken up by plants, and what the ideal base saturation levels are in the soil. I think it might really help out. Wish you luck.
So? If it doesn’t apply to you is it useless? You dont utilize it but i do and so could you. Just takes a little bit of effort. There is more than one way to grow.
If your objective is to prove that one way is superior to another, that is just an endless conversation that will not contribute anything to a forum and this thread is not the place.
You can supplement ionic feeds to your crops, thats your call. Again organics is not about that npk numbers to begin with. Those numbers don’t give you absolute values of what plant is getting. There are many more aspects to an organic soil than just adding 40 this and 15 that.
I will not go into a full blown debate on this, to each his own. If you want to learn more read about KNF and see how many people utilizes that philosophy in their acres and acres of space.
Fyi; you break down bone meal seperately and bottle it as a liquid nutrient so once you finish the process you’ll always have ready to use and readily available liquid bone meal. This is done prior to a grow. Self sustainability is a good thing.
I never said anything was useless. I was genuinely asking if any of those techniques could be applied to a large garden, and the answer was clearly no. Unless you live on a banana farm....... The concept however is what all organic gardeners do, is utilize organic inputs from local farms. Just no banana farms here. Without a banana farm, I am trying to imagine how this works...... You go down to Safeway and buy a pallet of banana's? How much does that cost?
I clearly said I don't add ionic fertilizers, why would you accuse me of doing so?
Liquid bone meal? Yea, that is fairly soluble and a great product. Still not even close to the boost that Monopotassium phosphate adds. I love bone meal, and add about 20# per yard every year. I add mine in the fall so it's broken down by spring. Cause I know how long that stuff takes to break down, years. How big does that bottle have to be to soak the bone meal? I have almost a thousand yards I ammend, at 20+ lbs per yard we are talking 20,000 lbs of bone meal. Better get a bigger bottle, lol. To reach 80+% base saturation, bone meal is one of my main calcium's.
You guys seem to be preaching to the choir. I am an organic grower, with many organic tricks. My only point I was making is organics are very hard to produce the same yields as a grow with chemical boots given at critical points of influence. Need further evidence? Go read a giant pumpkin growing book. Those guys have really set the path. Just trying to share what I believe, and trying to not putting anybody else down in the process.