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That's very similar to what I run using PureCal CalNit (13-0-0 18%) instead of Jack's (15-0-0 18%) Calnit. It bumps calcium up a bit without going overboard with N. I dump about 30 ppm of epsom salt in but i don't even think it's necessary like you've already found.1 part Jacks 5/12/26
1 part Calcium Nitrate
zero parts Epsom salt
base nutes mixed at the 1:1 ratio and provided at the desired PPM for each stage.
Fulvic acid during veg. TPS Gold Silica and raw cane sugar for the whole grow. Chitosan during bloom.
Boy howdy. Keep it simple.I think this is what is being referred to.
JACKS BACK!!! Capulators new formulas.
what up peeps. jacks back. Ran out of jacks a while back and decided I would make the move to all raw salts. My plants did not like this, and so I am going back to a modified jacks formula, which was working great for me before. I ordered the following from JR peters: jacks classic...www.thcfarmer.com
To many ingredients for me personally..
Pretty cool. These guys are pretty smart. In fact they seem to know better than a company that has been producing nuts for over 70 years. I guess they most know something the rest of us will only hope to learnBoy howdy. Keep it simple.
I use a copy of Jack’s from a company that’s been in business since 1962 making hydroponic nutrients. Ran out last year and a friend gave me some nutes to use in the meantime. AN Iguana. Said he burned his plants with it but maybe I’d have better luck. Never heard of it.Pretty cool. These guys are pretty smart. In fact they seem to know better than a company that has been producing nuts for over 70 years. I guess they most know something the rest of us will only hope to learn
If it was not for a professional consult or 2 or 3. You might have a point. But for a cost of like 5 cents a gallon. My Time is more valuable than standing around mixing dry salts. You are welcome to see for yourself. Look up @BillFarthing and Ballon on a budget tread. BTW saying u have been growing since 05 with a 15 year break is ppretty much a jokeBeen growing since 05. Always hydro, always used Advanced until recently switched over to mixing from scratch. A quick stop to FloraFlex but that was very short. When you make that switch it makes you more analytical of the N-P-K ratio, to say the least. You are immediately looking for a starting point and wanting to see what others and other products are doing. When you hear someone say they are using a product call 123 it makes you think they mean the NPK ratio. Even the real name 321 sounds even more like an NPK ratio (but it is not) because the actual ratio most use is 312 and lately the trend to 212 from start to finish. So I promise I was not being obtuse, just trying to be exact so I could understand what was being discussed. I still don't understand why some insist on calling it 123 and actually take a stand for it Why don't you call it Jack's BING BANG BOOM. What's the difference? You're just making things up. Personally, I use Jack's Bah Fong Gule. It's awesome.
From what I can gather, Jack's 321 mixing formula will yield you about a 2-1-2 NPK which is great. Pete_Phreak, by adding Calcium Nitrate is increasing the N and likely getting closer to a 3-1-2. Also great. He's leaving out the Mag Sul so it must be in there from somewhere else. Where might that be from? Doesn't sound like he has a magnesium deficiency. Any guesses?
Flora Nova Bloom is 4-8-7 which is 1-2-1.9 roughly, if I'm not mistaken is exactly the Lucas Formula. Not my choice of a ratio but to each their own. It will probably work ok but might not be optimal. For me so far, 2-1-2.5 in flower is working great, 3-1-2 veg. My plants are better than ever. Maybe leaving out fillers and dyes makes a difference.
As far as listening to companies that have been around for 70 years? That's the exact logic that will get you screwed in life. The one thing they are good at is getting your money, that's why they were able to stay around for 70 years. After now mixing my own, there isn't a premixed product I would buy again ever. Why? It's all the same chemicals as in exactly the same. There's no magic. None. The only magic is when you mix your own you leave out all the fillers and dyes. Way easier than Advanced because there're less items, (hmm) and much more fun. But don't listen to me, I don't know what I'm talking about.
https://www.gardenmyths.com/molasses-for-plants/ is a great place to learn about molasses and why it's used. I'm not telling anyone not to use anything because I say so. But I can challenge you to think and explain the process. If you don't want to participate fine.
You understood correctly. If it mixed clear and not cloudy, you did it right.UPDATE: Circling back, figured out what I did wrong with the Jack’s. I wasn’t using a separate container to mix the part B with water before adding to the solution. I misunderstood the directions to mean not to mix the powders,
No need to dissolve the CalNit in a separate container before adding it to the rest..and I didn’t realize I need a separate container to mix the B with water before mixing it into the solution.
My friend says that this ruined the solution. So I’ll be off to the races with the Jack’s again I’m already so sick of opening all those bottles of AN and paying such high prices.
Well now I’m still stumped.You understood correctly. If it mixed clear and not cloudy, you did it right.
No need to dissolve the CalNit in a separate container before adding it to the rest..
Add the 5-12-26 (part A) and epsom (if using) to your mixing tank and let that dissolve and then add your CalNit (part B) and let that mix.
If running Jack's at 3g/2g/1g you should wind up somewhere around 1.8 EC if running with RO water, higher if running full strength @ 3.78/2.52/1.2
How do I mix Jack's 321?
How do I mix Jack's 321? We're here to show you how!www.jacksnutrients.com
No, nothing out of the ordinary. Obviously something was off but still unidentified. Totally spooked me though as I have been growing a long time and I’ve become pretty accurate at estimating my yields, this really threw me.Are you sure another parameter wasn't missed in your last grow? Almost seems like your plants could have gone a bit longer for one reason or another.
Like you said, the obvious difference is Jack's vs AN but the discrepancy in final weight seems crazy.No, nothing out of the ordinary. Obviously something was off but still unidentified. Totally spooked me though as I have been growing a long time and I’ve become pretty accurate at estimating my yields, this really threw me.
Yeah they’ve been in business since 1947 with the same stuff because they suck. Right?Heard nothing but good but have seen nothing impressive regarding Jacks
Ford has been in business a lot longer wouldn’t catch me dead in oneYeah they’ve been in business since 1947 with the same stuff because they suck. Right?
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