TEA Concoction(s) PLEASE!?!

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Howdy,

Will any of you gladly share your ingredients list on any awesome teas you use for organic soil?

Thank you in advance:dance
 
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mrbong73

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I would suggest a liquid fish hydrosylate product and liquid kelp product as a starting point. A little pro-tekt liquid silicon wouldn't hurt either. This can be used a weekly soil drench and foilar spray.
Do some research on actively aerated compost teas. These can be used to boost your "micro-herd" in the soil and really put the soil to work for your plants.
 
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in veg i us e earthjuice grow micro and catalyst at a ratio of 10-5-5 ml per gallon and allow to bubble 24-48hrs use once a week in bloom i use the same just adding bloom and meta k and hi brix at different ratios for different weeks i swear by a 1ce a week foliar feed my flowers have begun turning a natural pinkish purple green the hairs are red grapefruit pink im sure genetics have alot to do with it its just these strains have never exibited this until a started foliar feeding
 
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SPONGE...my man...let's chat

MrBong is absolutely correct! he only took the first step. there is much more to be covered and discussed and hopefully we can all learn something by bouncing ideas off each other.

there are many different recipes for compost tea. when it comes to cannabis though we must adjust because She loves to eat! in the vegetative state we must establish a bacterial/microbial colony in our soil/roots. a good bacterial recipe would be something along the lines of:
Liquid Kelp (macro nutrients/energy source)
Liquid fish hydrolysate (macro nutrients/energy source)
Molasses and Sucanat (micronutrients/energy source)
Mycorrhizae fungi/Humic acid (helps colonize and break down nutrients)
earthworm castings (bacteria/fungal microbe source)

since we are in veg if this recipe is not giving your specific strain enough nitrogen a high N bat guano will solve the problem quickly. however earthworm casting have never let me down... but i only tend to about 10 plants never more than 2 strains...

now in the vegetative state i like to go back and forth between the bacterial dominant tea and what i call "a balanced tea". they are the identical recipe but in my balanced tea i add a big dose of FoxFarms "Peace of Mind" (5-5-5) to the mix. in the past 2 years i have done this and i believe it does the hardy task of feeding both the beneficial organisms we are establishing in our soil and feeding the plant at the same time.

when we get to the flowering stage we switch over to a fungal dominant recipe. the idea behind this is after establishing beneficial microbes and unlocking the biologically correct fertilizers in our soil we want them to go into overdrive to really make the plants swell in the final stage. a basic recipe would be something along the lines of:
earthworm castings
mushroom compost
ground oatmeal or powdered malt
rock phosphate

you mix the above ingredients all together and let it sit and ferment for a day or two. when its ready you add it to your tea along with:
molasses and Sucanat
liquid fish hydrolysate
liquid kelp
and depending on how my plants are looking or reacting I will occasionally add a bat guano that is higher on the phosphorous and potassium and low on the nitrogen in these final stages

always use non-chlorinated water! chlorine will destroy all your hard work and all these recipes. well i hope this helps you out in your exploration of organic compost teas and i hope we can get a conversation started over hear at the Farm and learn from one another. be safe and good luck.
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Here you go:



If your serious about brewing ACT, pick up a copy of The Compost Tea Brewing Manual as well:



Well made ACT can take your garden to a whole new level.
 
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SpOnGe

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Geeez Louise!

mrbong73, 420king-MASSES, soilslinger, and Blaze... Thanks you very very much for the much needed kickdown... I will definately be using all your shared info on my spring/summer outdoor grow (which i have great expectations for). Thank you all again!

I fed my first tea mix today with FFOF/FFHF (which is the same soils i also chose to plant them in), mixed in a few drops of Superthrive (which i used to foliar feed prior to mixing).

Hope everyone had a great Thanks Giving... Peace.
 
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tea time

for a good full force flower tea i use the following: 2 cups 0-7-0 Guano(powdered) , 1 cup organic trace minerals(dry), 2-4 ounces of 2-3-3 fish fert, a cup of organic blackstrap molasses. have a shot glass of powdered rock phosphate, a cup live worm castings, and a cup of grotashi(nor cal exclusive) use can substitute catalayst. mix together with water(thick mud) let sit in warm 70f dark room for a couple of days. you should see growth(and yeah we love this kind of fungus) take the earthy smelling(if smells like amonia discard!) put it in a mesh stocking of sorts(there are laundry bags made for washing underwear that work the best) and hang in a trash can fill can with 15-20 gallons water put airator on the bottom of can. and let bubble for 2 or so days. and now the fun starts. you should see results in a few days. this stuff saved my butt this year
 
Taedon83

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I've been growing for years out of bottles and just recently switch to compost tea. I'm hooked for life.

My veg blend:
1gal h2o
1cup wormcastings
1teas maxicropliquid seaweed
1teas unsulfured blackstrap molasses
brewed for24 hours and strained
half of scoop of GWS myco
drenched and foliar


Before

48 hours later

After
 
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Buddy Flowers

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Damn Taedon! i can definitely see the difference. nice work.

soilslinger- excellent info, thank you. i'm just recently getting into home-made teas. I've used Flora Blend for a few years for my hydro but there's no way that stuff can be as 'alive' as the home made stuff. I just ordered a Bountea 5 gal kit...let's talk!
 
Taedon83

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Damn Taedon! i can definitely see the difference. nice work.

soilslinger- excellent info, thank you. i'm just recently getting into home-made teas. I've used Flora Blend for a few years for my hydro but there's no way that stuff can be as 'alive' as the home made stuff. I just ordered a Bountea 5 gal kit...let's talk!

Thanks bro, check out this root porn.
beneficials, protazoa,nematodes, organics oh my!


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leadsled

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nice before and after pics. teas are amazing.

I been using this recipe as a start.

alaskan humisoil (my compost pile is not yet ready)
earthworm castings (same as above, going to farm my own)
kelp meal (friend gave me)
unsulphured blackstrap molasses ($20.00 for 5 gallons at feed store)

brew overnight. one hour before applying add mycos.

dilute one part tea to 8 parts water, then apply.
for foliar, dilute 10to 1.

make sure to clean tea brewer immediately after using. Or else will be very hard to get clean again.

blaze thanks for the link, Love teaming with microbes.
I noticed while reading the book I do not see any mention of poop (guanos) in teas.
Curious.
IS this something that cannabis farmers just enjoy and love? Why arent they using guanos. I know that many recommend guanos.

Blaze. anyone care to share? was told the guanos enhance the oils and flavor. yet others claim that guano will not break down and be available within a short indoor 2 month flowering cycle. Science or stoner myth?

Need to get that compost tea guide.
 
SmokeyPipes

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nice before and after pics. teas are amazing.

I been using this recipe as a start.

alaskan humisoil (my compost pile is not yet ready)
earthworm castings (same as above, going to farm my own)
kelp meal (friend gave me)
unsulphured blackstrap molasses ($20.00 for 5 gallons at feed store)

brew overnight. one hour before applying add mycos.

dilute one part tea to 8 parts water, then apply.
for foliar, dilute 10to 1.

make sure to clean tea brewer immediately after using. Or else will be very hard to get clean again.

blaze thanks for the link, Love teaming with microbes.
I noticed while reading the book I do not see any mention of poop (guanos) in teas.
Curious.
IS this something that cannabis farmers just enjoy and love? Why arent they using guanos. I know that many recommend guanos.

Blaze. anyone care to share? was told the guanos enhance the oils and flavor. yet others claim that guano will not break down and be available within a short indoor 2 month flowering cycle. Science or stoner myth?

Need to get that compost tea guide.
I've been using a similar recipe,that alaskan humisoil is great stuff!!.I use guanos and can see there results pretty quick, Like to use the sunleaves peruvian seabird guano,in teas and as a top dressing when my plants need a boost,I see results in a about a week or less,Now I'm sure Blaze has more experience then me,But that don't change the fact that I've seen them work for my plants!!
 
Blaze

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blaze thanks for the link, Love teaming with microbes.
I noticed while reading the book I do not see any mention of poop (guanos) in teas.
Curious.
IS this something that cannabis farmers just enjoy and love? Why arent they using guanos. I know that many recommend guanos.

Blaze. anyone care to share? was told the guanos enhance the oils and flavor. yet others claim that guano will not break down and be available within a short indoor 2 month flowering cycle. Science or stoner myth?

Guanos are not recommended in brewing tea for several reasons. First of all, they can contain pathogenic organisms, which is also why manure should never be used in tea as well. They are also quite toxic and need to be handled carefully - they can get you really sick if you inhale some of the dust. The nutrients in gunaos are also not water soluble and will not be imparted into the tea when you brew it, so they do not really add much to the brew anyway. You could brew guano tea for a month, you still wouldn't extract many nutrients contained within in, so using them in tea is also waste of time. You only see pot growers using guano in tea - all the pros like Dr Inghram and all the legit farmers out there don't use them, and for good reason.

In order to get the benefits of the guano, you need to have it in your soil. Then the application of tea will help break it down and provide nutrients for the plants. How fast they break down I am not sure of. Many factors would be involved, such as the type of guano, how much tea you were feeding your plants, how active your soil biology is, etc. Many people use them successfully though so I think they obviously work at least to some extent with the shorter indoor cycle.

Also - IMHO, guanos do not go along with the principals of organic production. It is not a sustainable source of fertilizer, and the harvesting of guano causes massive environmental damage and destroys the habitats of the bats and birds it is harvested from. This is one of the main reasons why I will not use them.
 
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wow thanks blaze for learnin us something lol. You know your soil.
 
Ohiofarmer

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I've used manure teas, mixed with guanos, kelp,wormcast etc., they work the best by far but i would agree with blaze to only use the teas as a second measure and to already have available nutrients in the soil, also shredded gardening compost is great to add to soil to gain extra humic acid throughout your mix, also for those who are brewing teas but can't figure out how to store the manure or poo that long a good idea is drying,dehumidifying it, in it's dry form it can then have dry mycorrhizae and other beneficial bacteria starters added, this allows you the versitility of either put the dried tea mix in your soil or mixing it with water stand alone in small batches and watering with it, i have done this for 3 years now and it works fantastic especially for indoor grows. Take it easy bros:smiley_joint:
 
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SpOnGe

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Yep, i've experimented to just try teaing up some of the fresh leftovers of FFOF & FFHF (that also makes up most of the plants medium). No doubt, the plants love it!

What i do is pour 1-2 cups of each into a 1 gallon container/bottle, fill it up with tap water, mix/shake it up well periodically for a minimum of 24-48 hours... I recently left a mix in a bottle for 1 week and had no negative signs to the plants post feeding... be sure to leave the cap off (after shaking of course) so that the mixture can breathe.
But yeah, so mix that shit up good, and then strain and transfer it into another 1 gallon container (so that theres no mulch in bottle when pouring).
You can then discard the muclh or use it as a top dressing.

Just prior to feeding, I then add 2 tsps of molasses and 4 drops of Superthrive. Again shake it up real well (in the new 1 gallon transfer bottle now). Then, pour away! Your plants will love you.

During this rotation of feeding, i also mix 4 drops of ST into a half full (of water) spray bottle and foliar feed/drench my plants, and yeah they love that shet too!

Soooo, as far as this feeding goes, im not so sure if its the Tea set up that makes them react vibrantly, or if its the ST that i put into the mix that makes them flex up and look pumped, but all-in-all this mix up proved to be pretty good and for sure cheap, and made it to their rotating menu list.

Making teas is a pretty awesome thing to concoct up for your plants, you literally have a menu of things you can add to your mix... enjoy. peace.
 
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headdiemeddie42

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This mix has been makin my kush ladies absolutuely blow up n ooze with resin

veg-
1 1/2 cup roots Big Worm wormcastings
3/4 cup General organics ANCIENT FOREST ALASKA HUMUS
3/4 cup alfaalfa meal
1.5 tablespoons kelp meal
2.5 tsp organic unsluphered blakstrap mollases
1/8 cup roots oregonism or great white
1/2 cup biochar (pyrolysed wood n compost)
1/8 cup steamed bonemeal
1/8 cup of compost my buddy makes
1/8 cup azomite
20-25 ml voodoo juice

mixed with 6-8 gallons water depending on how i feel- bubbled 24-36 hours

FLower
1/2 cup peruvian seabird guano
1/2 cup indonesian guano
5 teaspoons budswell
1/4 cup alfalfa meal
2 tablespoons kelp
2 teaspoons- Neptune Fish hydrosylate
3/4 cup roots big worm worm castings
3 heaping tablespoons blackstap mollasses
6 teaspoons meta K
2 teaspoon greensand
100 ml Advanced Nutrients nirvana
30 ml voodoo juice
1/4 cup Oregonism Xl or Greatwhite
2 teapoons Organic Honey
1/8-1/4 cup organic cocoa powder
1/2 cup biochar
1/4 cup compost my friend makes

mixed with 8 gallons r o d water (per bubbledwith airstones for 24 hrs) then mixed with everything n bubbled for 28-36 hours with multiple airstones Do not disturb the fungal strands that will form later towards the end of the bubbling, make sure airstones are constantly circulating gunk at the bottom

ENJOY!!!!
 
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CT Guy

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Here you go:



If your serious about brewing ACT, pick up a copy of The Compost Tea Brewing Manual as well:



Well made ACT can take your garden to a whole new level.

My recommendations would be "Teaming with Microbes" by Jeff Lowenfels (cheap on Amazon and much easier read than Dr. Ingham's book, though the free link above that was posted is a good starting point).

Also check out the tea article on methodology on www.gardeningwithmicrobes.com

A really good site, though it can be tricky to navigate is www.microbeorganics.com The info. is spot-on though!

Hope that helps!
 
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I am about to run a new AACT recipe that is credited to LumperDawgz on another forum. His posts are very informative.

1 cup organic seed meal (equal parts cotton, flax, alfalfa, and canola seed)
1/2 cup Alaskan humus
1 cup homemade EWC
2 tbls. kelp meal
1/2 cup fish enzyme (hydrosylate)
1/2 tsp. pure humic acid
1 or 2 tsp. unsulphered molasses (optional - for higher bacteria count)
6 gal. water

Aerate and heat water to 75*F. Run for 18 - 24 hrs (high fungal) , 24 - 36 hrs (high bacterial) , more than 48 hrs (high protozoa).

This tea is to be used once in the 2nd week of veg. and once in the 1st or 2nd week of flower. Maintenance tea ( consisting of fish enzyme and seaweed extract) is given once a week. Plain water as needed.

I am waiting on a Humic Acid source before I start. I may just end up ordering online from BioAg.

Glad to see you here CT Guy. I enjoyed reading your posts on another forum.
 

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