Tea Recipe

click80 · Apr 9, 2012

Capulator said:
On humic acid:

"The activities of beneficial soil microbes are crucial for the sustainability of any soil and plant growth. Humic acid stimulates microbial activity by providing the indigenous microbes with a carbon source for food, thus encouraging their growth and activity. Soil microbes are responsible for solubilizing vital nutrients such as phosphorus that can then be absorbed by the humic acid and in turn made available to the plant. Additionally, microbes are responsible for the continued development of humus in the soil as it continues to break down not fully decomposed organic matter. This in-situ production of humus continues to naturally add to the humic acid base and its benefit"

In this article are they saying indigenous microbes are different from soil microbes I wonder?

Capulator · Apr 9, 2012

All microbes from the packs were sourced were sourced from indigenous microbes. Once you add them in they are in the soil... hence, soil microbes. I believe here they are talking about the same microbe, using different adjectives.

click80 · Apr 9, 2012

thank you...just trying to get a good grip on all this stuff. Hey are you getting a scope with a camera? If you don't mind me asking.

Capulator · Apr 9, 2012

Yes I got it with a 8mp camera. I am waiting now for slides.

click80 · Apr 9, 2012

sweet...that's gonna be so cool. There is a website I have bookmarked that has quicktime videos of microscope views of microbes on slides and a whole lot of stuff about microbes. I think the guy who runs it has posted on the farm before. If you want I can search for it and post a link.

click80 · Apr 9, 2012

Here it is...

http://www.microbeorganics.com/#Contents

I found this about a year ago when I first got really interested in teas. I did a bit of checking and found several places that made me feel this guy is very cool and not just selling brewers and stuff.....

pRiMo303 · Apr 11, 2012

leadsled said:
Example of one brew: I used cap's tea recipe and...
Another brew used hydrosylate and went for 36 hours before fungi appeared, but the tea was more balanced.
-Lead

I wasnt sure whether to post this here or in the testimonial where you have your recipe posted, but since we're keeping that limited to testimonies and I've seen a lot of other people in this thread using the nute pack in their tea, despite the recommended usage.

THIS IS FOR EVERYONE USING THE NUTE PACK IN THEIR TEA (taken from page 156 of TEAMING WITH MICROBES):

"You can add micorrhizal fungi at the very end of the brew cycle. If you put spores into the tea while it is being made, either they will be destroyed or the fungal hyphae they produce will be destroyed-they are both very fragile; also, since micorrhizal fungi live off of root exeduates, they and the tea must reach plant roots quickly."

click80 · Apr 11, 2012

Okay.... I could write four paragraphs about why I am going to say that this tea is great. For you guy's sake I will keep it short.

I have used Alfalfa Tea with great results. I have used some really fancy stuff called The Harpin Protein that fools the plant into a strong SAR response. It, the Harpin Protein (Employ H&T is brand name) works about the same as my Alfalfa Tea, which I make very strong, 14 cups Alfalfa Meal to 4 gallons water. I dilute that tea 1:8 about. I have used Super Thrive.

I doubt I will ever use any of that stuff again. Caps did the same as anything I have ever used, including the 120 dollar Bountea brewing kit, but to a much greater degree in a very short period of time. I am very happy. Moms are literally exploding with energy.

'Nuff said.

Venom818 · Apr 11, 2012

what size pump are you guys using to brew tea in a 5 gal bucket ? any links would be appreciated

waayne · Apr 11, 2012

Venom this is a little overkill, but more oxygen is better than less........
This 110 Lt/min pump will run bubblers in two 5 gallon containers

I use it to run a 14" micro pore diffuser that is in the bottom of a a 30 gallon trash can.
I usually brew 7-9 gallons of tea at a time with this setup.....

outwest · Apr 11, 2012

Venom818 said:
what size pump are you guys using to brew tea in a 5 gal bucket ? any links would be appreciated

I'm running two old whisper lite fish tank pumps.

outwest

Venom818 · Apr 11, 2012

waayne said:
Venom this is a little overkill, but more oxygen is better than less........
This 110 Lt/min pump will run bubblers in two 5 gallon containers

I use it to run a 14" micro pore diffuser that is in the bottom of a a 30 gallon trash can.
I usually brew 7-9 gallons of tea at a time with this setup.....

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thnx brother wayne,I bought one with 2 outlets but might just exchange it for the one like yours just a smaller version.If im going to do something might as well do it right

waayne · Apr 11, 2012

Venom the smaller version would probably be perfect for 5 gallons of tea.

I've used this pump for over a year and it's a beast!

click80 · Apr 11, 2012

My air pump I use is 45liters/min. I keep it at a very low setting for a couple reasons. First, I know that many people make great teas by just hand stirring a couple times a day, the other reason is I do know that fungi is delicate, as pRiMo pointed out. I was actually wondering whether a recirculation pump would do better but I would think the impellers would damage fungi. I think that foam covered air diffusers are out because the second batch of Caps tea damn near blocked my air stone up. Anyone else notice this? The first batch I used a throwaway stone so did not clean it, or I would have noticed then probably.

I had to soak this stone overnight in a bleach/water mixture and this morning I was able to get air coming out of the whole (cylinder type) stone again. I am assuming that the air stone was colonized? There was some accumulation on it when I first took it out, but was not slimy. Random observation.

waayne · Apr 11, 2012

click80 I use H202 to clean my diffuser and it still looks like new.....

liketosmoke · Apr 11, 2012

Air lift tea brewers are the best for delicate fungi, Tim Wilson at http://www.microbeorganics.com, uses a micro scope to look at fungi it is one of the best places for that info ,it tell you how to make a air lift brewer. i use one and love it

liketosmoke · Apr 11, 2012

Venom818 said:
what size pump are you guys using to brew tea in a 5 gal bucket ? any links would be appreciated

ecoplus commercial 1 is what you want for a five gallon bucket about $35.00 just Google it

leadsled · Apr 11, 2012

pRiMo303 said:
I wasnt sure whether to post this here or in the testimonial where you have your recipe posted, but since we're keeping that limited to testimonies and I've seen a lot of other people in this thread using the nute pack in their tea, despite the recommended usage.

THIS IS FOR EVERYONE USING THE NUTE PACK IN THEIR TEA (taken from page 156 of TEAMING WITH MICROBES):

"You can add micorrhizal fungi at the very end of the brew cycle. If you put spores into the tea while it is being made, either they will be destroyed or the fungal hyphae they produce will be destroyed-they are both very fragile; also, since micorrhizal fungi live off of root exeduates, they and the tea must reach plant roots quickly."

Cap does mention that (in other words) in the edit portion of the original post.

FYI, not mentioned in the original post. I did NOT use any mycorrhizae in the example I speak of.
There are many different types of fungi, not just mycorrhizae.

click80 · Apr 11, 2012

leadsled said:
Cap does mention that (in other words) in the edit portion of the original post.

FYI, not mentioned in the original post. I did NOT use any mycorrhizae in the example I speak of.
There are many different types of fungi, not just mycorrhizae.

You know the bacterial reproduction part in teas I have good picture of in my head. Fungi though are very different and I would love for anyone to post in here concerning fungi.

Like for instance, do all fungi have the delicate nature of myco fungi?
Do they all tend to take longer to reproduce in ACT?
How do they reproduce? Do all of them reproduce in teas or (as I think i read somewhere) do some only become active when in contact with either soil or roots?

I can't wait to get a microscope. In the back of my head I am thinking of starting a worm farm and starting my own compost. I don't find many things this interesting at my old age. Unfortunately my college Microbiology book was for nursing and does not focus too much on fungi and soil type bacteria. Going to get some books also but at 200 bucks a pop, for some of them, I want to find a comprehensive one that focuses on microbes in soil science.

waayne · Apr 11, 2012

liketosmoke said:
Air lift tea brewers are the best for delicate fungi, Tim Wilson at http://www.microbeorganics.com, uses a micro scope to look at fungi it is one of the best places for that info ,it tell you how to make a air lift brewer. i use one and love it

I agree liketosmoke Airlift brewers work great.

The vortex brewers like the one in leadsleds DIY thread also work really well.

Tim Wilson's site is a great resource and has excellent info.I would encourage anyone that's really interested in brewing quality tea's to check it out........

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