Tests find only marijuana in face-chewer's system

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MIAMI (AP) — Lab tests detected only marijuana in the system of a Florida man shot while chewing on another man's face, the medical examiner said Wednesday, ruling out other street drugs including the components typically found in the stimulants known as "bath salts."
There has been much speculation about what drugs, if any, would lead to the bizarre behavior that authorities said Rudy Eugene exhibited before and during the gruesome attack that left the other man horribly disfigured. A Miami police union official had suggested that Eugene, who was shot and killed by an officer, was probably under the influence of bath salts.
The Miami-Dade County Medical Examiner said in a news release that the toxicology detected marijuana, but it didn't find any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs. Eugene also tested negative for adulterants commonly mixed with street drugs.
The department ruled out the most common components found in so-called bath salts, which mimic the effects of cocaine or methamphetamine and have been associated with bizarre crimes in recent months. An outside forensic toxicology lab, which took a second look at the results, also confirmed the absence of bath salts, synthetic marijuana and LSD.
Messages left with the medical examiner's office for comment were not immediately returned.
The Drug Enforcement Administration last year temporarily outlawed the possession and sale of three synthetic stimulants sometimes packaged as "bath salts." Several states have also moved to ban the drugs, often sold on the Internet and in head shops and other retail outlets. The bans don't affect the kinds of bath salts added to tubs for their fragrance and cosmetic benefits.
An expert on toxicology testing said that marijuana alone wasn't likely to cause behavior as strange as Eugene's.
"The problem today is that there is an almost an infinite number of chemical substances out there that can trigger unusual behavior," said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, Professor and Director of Toxicology at the University of Florida.
Goldberger said that the medical examiner's office in Miami is known for doing thorough work and that he's confident they and the independent lab covered as much ground as possible. But it's nearly impossible for toxicology testing to keep pace with new formulations of synthetic drugs.
"There are many of these synthetic drugs that we currently don't have the methodology to test on, and that is not the fault of the toxicology lab. The challenge today for the toxicology lab is to stay on top of these new chemicals and develop methodologies for them, but it's very difficult and very expensive." Goldberger said. "There is no one test or combination of tests that can detect every possible substance out there."
An addiction expert said she wouldn't rule out marijuana causing the agitation.
"It could have been the strain of marijuana that increases the dopamine in the brain, such as sativa," said Dr. Patricia Junquera, assistant professor at the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine.
There are two strains of marijuana called sativa and indica. The sativa increases dopamine and gives you energy while decreasing pain threshold. Indica is a "sleepy high," she explained.
"People don't really know what the amount of either is in each little packet of marijuana," she explained. "And we can't differentiate between the two in the blood, much less in a dead person."
She also suggested that if Eugene had a mental disorder, "the marijuana could have increased even further the dopamine levels and aggravated the situation. So that can't be ruled out."
It's not clear what led to the May 26 attack on Ronald Poppo, a 65-year-old homeless man who remains hospitalized. Eugene's friends and family have said he was religious, not violent and that he didn't drink or do drugs harder than marijuana.
"There's no answer for it, not really," Eugene's younger brother, Marckenson Charles, said in an interview. "Anybody who knew him knows this wasn't the person we knew him to be. Whatever triggered him, there is no answer for this."
Surveillance video from a nearby building shows Eugene stripping Poppo and pummeling him, before appearing to hunch over and lie on top of him. The police officer who shot Eugene to death said he growled at the officer when he told him to stop.
Charles, Eugene's brother, said the family does not plan to pursue any legal action against the police for shooting Eugene.
"They used the force they felt was necessary, even if we don't agree with that,' he said.
He said that Eugene has been buried.
Shortly before the attack, a person driving on the MacArthur Causeway told a 911 dispatcher a "completely naked man" was on top of one of the light poles on the causeway and "acting like Tarzan." Still, police have said little about what may prompted Eugene to attack Poppo.
Poppo has undergone several surgeries and remains hospitalized. His left eye was removed, but doctors said earlier this month they were trying to find a way to restore vision in his right eye. He will need more surgeries before he can explore the options for reconstructing his face, doctors have said. A message left with the hospital was not immediately returned.
Poppo's family has said it had no contact with him for more than 30 years and thought he was dead.
Eugene's girlfriend, meanwhile, has said he never showed any signs of violence. Yovonka Bryant said she and Eugene often read the Bible and the Quran together, and often watched a religious television program in the mornings. She said she never saw Eugene drink and only saw him smoke marijuana once at a party.
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Associated Press writer Jennifer Kay contributed to this report
 
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I'm calling BS! I've been smoking over 23 years and I get the munchies so bad sometimes that I can eat almost anything, but I never, I repeat never get the urge for facemeat!

He did that type of damage eating a guy's face......I wonder what kinda number he'll put on the kitty! LOL
 
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There calling bath salts synthetic marijuana here in Texas. They get labeled one in the same. There was a dude who picked up and ate a dog here recently while high on bathsalts news will only call it synthetic pot cause its sold at head shops. Boycott bathsalts if ya wanna keep your local headshop.
 
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An addiction expert said she wouldn't rule out marijuana causing the agitation.
"It could have been the strain of marijuana that increases the dopamine in the brain, such as sativa," said Dr. Patricia Junquera

this "DR" is fucking clown shoes!!! sativa.... c'mon, this is like reefer madness all over again.

here, from wiki

dopamine

i just copied a part of it

Schizophrenia has been shown to involve elevated levels of dopamine activity in the mesolimbic pathway and decreased levels of dopamine in the prefrontal cortex.

hmmm that couldnt be the reason he had increased dopamine, WAIT NO it was the sativa (maybe pulled to early??..?)
 
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Soon everyone who smokes mj will be eating face. It could become the new fast food cuisine.

McFacial-nuggets sounds tastey. Instead of a Big Mac it will be a Big Nose. Big Ear. Damn I'm hungry just thinking about it.
 
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I mean I grow cannabis....but I won't smoke it. I'm not trying to eat face on the regular. But I am ok with my patients eating face. Nothing wrong with a bit of protein in a mans diet.
 
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When I was a kid, it was all about Acapulco Gold and eatin' face.
I thought you had to be smarter than that to be a doctor. Somebody must have spiked her drink with summa that Sativa stuff!
 
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it's sick how mephedrone is sold legally disguised in things like bath salts, and "synthetic marijuana"... which has such severe health risks, long term damage, uncontrollable highs ect. But what's their main focus? Making the world believe a simple plant is the real root to all evils in drugs.
 
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I mean I grow cannabis....but I won't smoke it. I'm not trying to eat face on the regular. But I am ok with my patients eating face. Nothing wrong with a bit of protein in a mans diet.

LOL

Nice one bro, that had me laughing.

Clearly, the article is full of shit. But even if it weren't, even if by some bizarre stroke of mixed up brain chemistry, the weed caused some sort of psychotic episode in this douchebag, it still does not even begin to make weed a dangerous drug. All drugs can have side-effects, some of those very rare and serious, but just because they exist doesn't mean those drugs should be eradicated. And I'm not just talking about recreational drugs, I mean all drugs, even those found safely tucked away in pharmacies and supermarkets around the world. But of course, the media conveniently overlooks this rather important point.

I really struggle to imagine the actual act of a guy eating another guys face while he's struggling and still alive. I think about it and end up thinking "WTF?!!" every time!
 
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"Don't talk about Zombies!.."
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