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I used garden safe pure neem extract. I'm in soil but it did not hurt plant at all. 20-25 ml per gallon to drench roots. It kills everything but the plant. And is uptaken in the plant and deters pests I'm not saying you have bug issue n I've only ever dealt with soil but if it's doing crazy things that you can't explain I would suspect something at the roots. People here blast me about my encounter with gnats and or alphids but once I put that neem on their ass the first time my plants did a complete 180. I had dead plants. Way past where yours are. And now they are almost flawless. 3 ft indoors about 2 weeks in 12/12 now. I got the neem right at a Walmart for like $5. It won't hurt plants. Stinks a bit. But all organic too.Sorry I forget you're soiless. Yah @xenon730 is right about that. Even if you aren't organic neem or karanja oil is the best IPM. Contains 200 different natural limoids that all just absolutely destroy mites. It prevents molting, reproduction and pretty much having any instincts to live at all. It also causes them to vomit profusely.
I use a tsp of neem oil, 1/4 tsp of aloe powder and protekt as an emulsifier. I put this in a quart of warm water. Shake the hell out of it and shake every once and a while during application to keep the oil suspended. Not to be used on flowers. The plant can absorb the oil systemically and it lasts about 2 weeks.
Don't go cheap. The nature's choice is garbage and even bonide. Get dynagro or neem resource.
The neem tree comes from india. People would wonder why all the crops would get eaten by locusts but they didn't touch the neem tree. It has been used for over a century.
Neem oil works awesome. I also top dress karanja cake once a month. You should use a pump sprayer with fine mist for good coverage. The aloe softens the leaves and helps with coverage.So how's that working out for you?
Neem oil works awesome. I also top dress karanja cake once a month. You should use a pump sprayer with fine mist for good coverage. The aloe softens the leaves and helps with coverage.
Once I have buds I run spinosad via soil feeds.
Turn off the lights before applying!
The oil will leave burn spots on the leaves. It's good to turn fans off also to allow the polish to sit on the leaves as long as possible.
Thank you I should say I am using neem and karanja meal in the soil mix and top dress I also include bacillus thuringiensis israelensis very thoroughly 100% success to date, I was more asking how was your results I know you replied 'awesome' but I understand you were having some type of major bug problems so would you say your regime eradicate the situation or a good control?"Neem oil works awesome. I also top dress karanja cake . ."
I thought it might have been the light. The neem says right on it to use for foliar spray but when I sprayed soil it burnt bottom leaves. I was under 24 hr light in veg. I can see where the oil would magnify and burn that's why I didn't spray as foliar.Neem oil works awesome. I also top dress karanja cake once a month. You should use a pump sprayer with fine mist for good coverage. The aloe softens the leaves and helps with coverage.
Once I have buds I run spinosad via soil feeds.
Turn off the lights before applying!
The oil will leave burn spots on the leaves. It's good to turn fans off also to allow the polish to sit on the leaves as long as possible.
More of a preventative. My mite outbreak was misdiagnosed and happened 3 weeks after I stopped applying itThank you I should say I am using neem and karanja meal in the soil mix and top dress I also include bacillus thuringiensis israelensis very thoroughly 100% success to date, I was more asking how was your results I know you replied 'awesome' but I understand you were having some type of major bug problems so would you say your regime eradicate the situation or a good control?
Where do you source your bacillus? I may start working it in.Thank you I should say I am using neem and karanja meal in the soil mix and top dress I also include bacillus thuringiensis israelensis very thoroughly 100% success to date, I was more asking how was your results I know you replied 'awesome' but I understand you were having some type of major bug problems so would you say your regime eradicate the situation or a good control?
Any clawing at the end means to dial back the n a little. Go to less next time. Youre giving vega right?
They don't go back if they're on smaller leaves past the tips or if they cause the sides to curl under usually. Ignore that then. When they start to look too dark dial it back. Give the 600 if you want to again, theyre not maxed I'm just over thinking a little bit. I like vega.Yep, they're getting Terra Vega nutes. I'll drop the next feed's ppm down.
Those tips were hooking pre-flush when the buildup was in effect - would they have straightened out if the Nitrogen was in check, or is it possible those hooks are just the leftovers of the buildup?
Where do you source your bacillus? I may start working it in.
I prefer to feed regularly. If youre worried you're giving too much, run a lower ppm with less vega or just mix as regular and dilute until whatever ppm you want. Terra nutrients are made to be fed regularly. I'm really glad these are turning around for you. Once you think they stable, flower them girls.It's been 5 days since I upped the nutes from 1.5mL/L to 3mL/L
Since then they've had two feeds at that strength (600 ppm), and they appear to be turning around.
Here they are in the tent (White Widow on Left, Puple Kush on Right)
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Here's the White Widow...
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White Widow close up...
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Purple Kush from above...
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Purple Kush close up...
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Things I'm noticing:
Things I changed:
- Plants are taking up a lot more room
- Purpling stems/veins seem to be disappearing
- Leaves are turning a darker shade of green
- New pH pen, calibrated every feed
- Flushed 24L through each of water pH'd to 6
- Bumped nutes from 1.5mL/L to 3mL/L (~600 ppm)
- pH'ing to 6
- 1 gal into each 2 gal pot - tons of run off
What's next? Should I continue feeding at 600ppm, or should I give them plain water for their next feed?
Very nice. Just don't get ahead of yourself and overfeed now. people tend to over correct, much like driving. If they're coming back steadily, they don't need more to go faster. You gonna flip them soon?
Very nice. Just don't get ahead of yourself and overfeed now. people tend to over correct, much like driving. If they're coming back steadily, they don't need more to go faster. You gonna flip them soon?
I tend to give 2 weeks to gauge a recovery and that seems like what youre going to do. Sometimes i just do it though. They still have weeks of veg at flip so if I'm really confident i fixed the problem ill just flip them. I dont think you should do that and it prevents learning, just wanted to explain the life cycle a little bit with an example.Totally! Learned my lesson on over-correcting when I put a golf cart in the pond at 14 ;)
I'd like to flip them, but as your last post said, want to ensure they're stable... and... one week of good growth doesn't exactly scream stability lol.
There are spots that look waxy, so for the next feed I'll dial back nutes to 500 ppm and see how things progress. With a bit of luck they should be ready in another few days (week max), then we're into uncharted territory... ;)
I tend to give 2 weeks to gauge a recovery and that seems like what youre going to do. Sometimes i just do it though. They still have weeks of veg at flip so if I'm really confident i fixed the problem ill just flip them. I dont think you should do that and it prevents learning, just wanted to explain the life cycle a little bit with an example.
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