The Real Reason for NATO Attacking Gaddafi’s Libya

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Some believe it is about protecting civilians, others say it is about oil, but some are convinced intervention in Libya is all about Gaddafi’s plan to introduce the gold dinar, a single African currency made from gold, a true sharing of the wealth.
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“It’s one of these things that you have to plan almost in secret, because as soon as you say you’re going to change over from the dollar to something else, you’re going to be targeted,” says Ministry of Peace founder Dr James Thring. “There were two conferences on this, in 1986 and 2000, organized by Gaddafi. Everybody was interested, most countries in Africa were keen.”
 
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lol - yes thats why they are attacking Gadaffi - he was gonna "share the wealth"

thats the funniest shit I heard in awhile - thanks
 
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I think it is 'cause we owed Italy and the other NATO nations a favor.
 
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lol - yes thats why they are attacking Gadaffi - he was gonna "share the wealth"

thats the funniest shit I heard in awhile - thanks
Yeah, jeez! Why doesn't he start sharing his own wealth, like, you know, with his people, first? Oh yeah, because he doesn't want to.

How about that shit's going down in Syria? A lot worse, IMO. And to top it off, all they want is freedom from oppression. Even better? They're willing to fight for it themselves.
 
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I think we can dispell the idea that Libya was attacked for humanitarian reasons in short order. The actions of the US and those they have supported in the past indicate they have no interest in human rights. lets look at some examples shall we:

Drone bombings of wedding parties in pakistan, killing hundreds to get 1 'terrorist'.

The murder of 1 million people in iraq by the Us military industrial complex.

The murder of US citizens at Waco Tx.

The wide spread dispersal of depleted uranium in the middle east, causing cancer, infertility, and destroying croplands.

Confirmed existance of torture centers in Egypt, where 'terrorists' and criminals from around the world were disappeared.

The support of Israel, which is a racist apartheid state.

The suspension of habeus corpus, the passage of the patriot act, disregard for the bill of rights.

-There are many more, im sure nearly anyone but a braindead prole can name dozens in a matter of minutes. Truth be told, im sure that those incidents we are aware of are but a drop in the bucket.

Now lets look at Iraq. Plans for its invasion were drawn up before 9/11. There were no weapons of mass destruction, and iraq was not involved in 9/11. The reason the plans were drawn up was because Iraq had announced that they would no longer be accepting the USD as payment for oil.

Iraq did not participate in the IMF or world bank. There are nations who do not participate as such, them being Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Iraq (which is now a member post war), Libya, and N korea. These countries have resisted repeated afforts to be taken into the IMF and world bank loan schemes, and have been vilified by western MSM. these countries do not partcipate in the pegging of their currencies to the US dollar, and do not recognize the USD as world reserve trade currency.

Now onto the dollar, oh shes a peach......a big rotten, hollow in the middle peach. The USD has lost 97% of its value since Paul Warberg (german banker and rothchild representative) wrote the federal reserve act in 1913, this do to the hidden tax of inflation, brought about by rampant printing of fiat currency

Wikipedia defines fiat currency as 'Fiat money is money that has value only because of government regulation or law. The term derives from the Latin fiat, meaning "let it be done", as such money is established by government decree.' Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard in 1971, and solidified the USD as the best fiat 'money' could buy.

There is no harm to world trade and currencies so long as all currencies are equally worthless and backed by nothing. serious problems arise for the economic engineers when faced with the notion of having to mantain their currencies while being competed with by those who are using currencies backed by ANYTHING.

Competition of this type is exactly why the jekyll island meetings were held, to set up a central Us and eventually world central bank, and to eliminate the banking competition by creating a cartel protected by the Us govt and eventually NATO. This in turn would allow for a creation of a world corrency, once all nations have joined or been bullied into the NATO/IMF/new world order club, all controlled by the central bank, which is the World Bank/IMF that was invented at Bretton Woods in 1944. the world bank in financed primarily by the privately owned Federal Reserve group of banks of the US.

So finally, after all that crap we are back to Libya. Libya supplies a goodly amount of oil to Europe. Libya had been working with other african nations to bring about a gold backed currency. This would have immediately made the libyan dinar the most desired currency in the world. It would have essentially become the world reserve trade currency by default. This was lauded by other african nations as fabulous. It would give them equal footing on the world stage, and allow them to prevent the plundering of their resources by 1st world countries interested in 'free trade'.

Other examples of countries who are in the crosshairs:

Venezuela- Chavez has discussed openly creating a south american currency backed by oil. For those of you who only watch NBC news, there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-100,000 Us and nato troops emmassed on the border of Venezuela/Columbia.

Mexico- It has been rumored that mexico, the second largest silver producing country in the world, will back its currency with silver after its upcoming election.

Iran- Iran recently announced it would no longer accept the Usd for payment for oil. iran of course has the backing of Russia and China, or wed of invaded long ago.

There is much more involved than what ive listed, but I dont have the energy to type it all out. Suffice to say, everything ive stated is truth. I would recommend a couple of books for those interested in further researching this subject matter.

The creature from jekyll island by G Edward Griffin
confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins

In a nutshell, the Us empire is finished. Just like the roman empire, the Us can no longer fund its plunder of the world becuase noone wants their dollars (failed bond auctions anyone?) and must, to remain viable, bring about a new world order so that the zionist bankers can control the world lock stock and barrel. We live in dangerous times to be sure, its best to be aware of whats going on in the genre of world finance. You will not recieve factual information by relying on mainstream media in the Us and western europe. the fact of the matter is that these agencies are merely propaganda tools for the appeasement of the 'useless eaters'. Thats YOU!

Admittedly, this is presented from an austrian economics standpoint, but I think its prudent to look at the other side of the coin. The fabian keynesians have made a mess using their rules of unreality to structure the world monetary system, and its been an utter failure, except for those printing the money out of thin air.
 
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Same thing was said od Saddam. What a coincidence that it always happens to be a dictator who kills his own people. Funny that.
 
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i think the usa are after more oil like in iraq love that black gold
 
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I think we can dispell the idea that Libya was attacked for humanitarian reasons in short order. The actions of the US and those they have supported in the past indicate they have no interest in human rights. lets look at some examples shall we:

Drone bombings of wedding parties in pakistan, killing hundreds to get 1 'terrorist'.

The murder of 1 million people in iraq by the Us military industrial complex.

The murder of US citizens at Waco Tx.

The wide spread dispersal of depleted uranium in the middle east, causing cancer, infertility, and destroying croplands.

Confirmed existance of torture centers in Egypt, where 'terrorists' and criminals from around the world were disappeared.

The support of Israel, which is a racist apartheid state.

The suspension of habeus corpus, the passage of the patriot act, disregard for the bill of rights.

-There are many more, im sure nearly anyone but a braindead prole can name dozens in a matter of minutes. Truth be told, im sure that those incidents we are aware of are but a drop in the bucket.

Now lets look at Iraq. Plans for its invasion were drawn up before 9/11. There were no weapons of mass destruction, and iraq was not involved in 9/11. The reason the plans were drawn up was because Iraq had announced that they would no longer be accepting the USD as payment for oil.

Iraq did not participate in the IMF or world bank. There are nations who do not participate as such, them being Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Iraq (which is now a member post war), Libya, and N korea. These countries have resisted repeated afforts to be taken into the IMF and world bank loan schemes, and have been vilified by western MSM. these countries do not partcipate in the pegging of their currencies to the US dollar, and do not recognize the USD as world reserve trade currency.

Now onto the dollar, oh shes a peach......a big rotten, hollow in the middle peach. The USD has lost 97% of its value since Paul Warberg (german banker and rothchild representative) wrote the federal reserve act in 1913, this do to the hidden tax of inflation, brought about by rampant printing of fiat currency

Wikipedia defines fiat currency as 'Fiat money is money that has value only because of government regulation or law. The term derives from the Latin fiat, meaning "let it be done", as such money is established by government decree.' Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard in 1971, and solidified the USD as the best fiat 'money' could buy.

There is no harm to world trade and currencies so long as all currencies are equally worthless and backed by nothing. serious problems arise for the economic engineers when faced with the notion of having to mantain their currencies while being competed with by those who are using currencies backed by ANYTHING.

Competition of this type is exactly why the jekyll island meetings were held, to set up a central Us and eventually world central bank, and to eliminate the banking competition by creating a cartel protected by the Us govt and eventually NATO. This in turn would allow for a creation of a world corrency, once all nations have joined or been bullied into the NATO/IMF/new world order club, all controlled by the central bank, which is the World Bank/IMF that was invented at Bretton Woods in 1944. the world bank in financed primarily by the privately owned Federal Reserve group of banks of the US.

So finally, after all that crap we are back to Libya. Libya supplies a goodly amount of oil to Europe. Libya had been working with other african nations to bring about a gold backed currency. This would have immediately made the libyan dinar the most desired currency in the world. It would have essentially become the world reserve trade currency by default. This was lauded by other african nations as fabulous. It would give them equal footing on the world stage, and allow them to prevent the plundering of their resources by 1st world countries interested in 'free trade'.

Other examples of countries who are in the crosshairs:

Venezuela- Chavez has discussed openly creating a south american currency backed by oil. For those of you who only watch NBC news, there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-100,000 Us and nato troops emmassed on the border of Venezuela/Columbia.

Mexico- It has been rumored that mexico, the second largest silver producing country in the world, will back its currency with silver after its upcoming election.

Iran- Iran recently announced it would no longer accept the Usd for payment for oil. iran of course has the backing of Russia and China, or wed of invaded long ago.

There is much more involved than what ive listed, but I dont have the energy to type it all out. Suffice to say, everything ive stated is truth. I would recommend a couple of books for those interested in further researching this subject matter.

The creature from jekyll island by G Edward Griffin
confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins

In a nutshell, the Us empire is finished. Just like the roman empire, the Us can no longer fund its plunder of the world becuase noone wants their dollars (failed bond auctions anyone?) and must, to remain viable, bring about a new world order so that the zionist bankers can control the world lock stock and barrel. We live in dangerous times to be sure, its best to be aware of whats going on in the genre of world finance. You will not recieve factual information by relying on mainstream media in the Us and western europe. the fact of the matter is that these agencies are merely propaganda tools for the appeasement of the 'useless eaters'. Thats YOU!

Admittedly, this is presented from an austrian economics standpoint, but I think its prudent to look at the other side of the coin. The fabian keynesians have made a mess using their rules of unreality to structure the world monetary system, and its been an utter failure, except for those printing the money out of thin air.

Nice post you said exactly what I was thinking. It makes alot of sense that the US would do exactly that, go an destroy anyone opposing our money. Why? Our dollar means nothing and we are forcing it upon people. The government itself tells us we are in debt, what does it mean when you have nothing but debt to speak for you? People stop trusting you, your word, your money everything about you means shit. An American dollar bill is now the equivalent of a IOU. Fuck that shit, people want something tangible for something else thats tangible. We need to stop playing games with ourselves and thinking in one way only. Sooner or later someone will call foul, in fact they already are. Are we ready to back up these people that we call our government and send our children into WAR for something that is totally wrong??
We keep doing it.
Ignorance is not an answer anymore people, we have people knocking at the door NOW. Listen up before shit gets serious, cause im telling you some aint ready for it. Some of you are not ready for what needs to be done now to correct the situation. It will be hard.
And in no way am I sayin that Gadaffi is good or whatever. I really know shit about him, but is sure makes a hell of alot of sense that this is a major motive behind AMERICAS movements and what they are able to enforce on us. Do YOU actually want to be paying for a WAR that is based on a mixture of truth and lies told from our government? I DONT. They want me to fight you better give me a damn good reason to fight. If that means investing in something that can help me and others then I say go for it. Why are we not instead trying to make silver dollars real silver? That would make the AMERICAN dollar worth something as opposed to nothing as it is now. Were in DEBT, dont we get that? Not a little debt, we have almost reached our limit, if you want to believe the best of what the government has to say. What does this say about our actual standing? The government has been known to hide shit for years, how are we to think this is any different?
Im not trying to say lets fuck ourselves over. But we owe and I dont know about you but I pay up. The US should be fighting to legalize this fine product we have here, that US fine upstanding citizens produce. Im not bullshitting. I know for a fact ALOT of US here on this site pride ourselves in our product, so WE are out there and it is real. Lets sell good kill to other countries that are like minded. They have shit to trade. Fuck it oil for bud. Lets do it.....
Ha! I laugh but im for real tho. We have minds and the power as people to stand up and do something, not just for ourselves but for others also. Because others are starting to stand up, its time for our oppressed asses to start doing the same.

Respects to all,
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the only way for us to get out of this mess is to start producing something. like was stated our money isnt worth the paper its printed on, u cant spend your way outa debt no matter what Obama says its just not possible. if china stopped selling us light bulbs our country would fall apart. Is there anyone left that even knows how to make a light bulb still? look at the advancement in technology from what we did and what they do. they make it so fast and cheap its all throw aways now. no more vacuum repair shops or tv repair men. technology is obsolete in 2 years tops now. landfills are filled up with computers, microwaves the list goes on. we need to go in the direction of farming and livestock, tons of land in this country not being used. Bottle water for the world. When its all said and doen the stuff keeping you alive will have real value.
 
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It really wasn't a NATO initiative ...

France jumped on the opportunity first - then the US mobilized (can't let France have the upper hand) THEN the UN came on board.

I really don't understand the need for foreign oil.

The US may not meet their needs but there is still great excess in North America. Canada has huge reserves as well as Mexico.

Why not an N.A. fuel association supplying domestic needs first, then offer overages to the world market?

OPEC may not be the best association for the western producers.

Just saying ...
 
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The US gets no oil from Libya - the oil they produce is not compatible with the type of oil that goes into production in US refineries
 
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Huh??? Crude is crude ...

The US buys a little under 3% of Libya's oil.
 
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Did you know that Venezuelan oil is RED???
 
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crude is different in all parts of the world - just like gold and the purity of it is different everywhere
 
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Libyan oil is some of the highest quality and one of the most easily refined crudes in the world.
 
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