The Silica Lie

Moses249 · Oct 8, 2013

So I been using silica in bloom and veg. Dynagro silica specifically. And having gone a couple of rounds with it I haven't seen any noticable difference in yield or overall plant vigor really. I have been reading up and it seems that silica may just be another bullshit thing people r trying to hawk on us. What say the farmers. Do most of you use silica and see significant difference or have had simliar expierience to me?

cannabeans · Oct 9, 2013

Are you in soil or hydro?

sixstring · Oct 9, 2013

sometimes I use it as a ph up if my nute mix is really low.but did you know............

Humans are born with more silica in their bodies than any other mineral, but it diminishes over time. Dietary sources of silica include apples, cucumbers, raisins and strawberries. However, many diets are insufficient and dietary silica is poorly absorbed thereby reducing the amount of silica available for your body.

:)

its supposed to help plants deal with heat stress and dry soil and air conditions also;)

jfizzle2cmu · Oct 9, 2013

Silica, from what I've read, is becoming more and more important the more we learn about it. They recently used some form of silica to create the first ever "zombified"-type cell.

Moses249 · Oct 9, 2013

hydro

Ever after · Oct 9, 2013

uhh its so key to make the stems stronger and also helps alot with bud rot and PM silica is really important and less stem rot with silica its not for yield its for plant health and making sure the plants are strong

mastacheeser · Oct 9, 2013

I use it as a ph up

As said above it helps create strong stems. Depending on genetics this might not be important

Its also supposed to help with heat stress, so if your temps are dialed in you might not need it as much

Texas Kid · Oct 9, 2013

I do cut it in flower for the most part..if your runnin H&G the drip clean has a little potassium silicate in there and acts as a good flushing agent as well..I like the Dynagro ProTekt stuff myself but Barricade/Rhino Skin from AN, Silica Blast from Botanicare, or even Fasilator from Aptus all work great...Rarely do I run it flower though except the Fasilator and thats in ever feed start to finish with Aptus

green punk · Oct 9, 2013

Silica Sheild, 3 ml per gallon.

Seamaiden · Oct 9, 2013

Moses249 said:
So I been using silica in bloom and veg. Dynagro silica specifically. And having gone a couple of rounds with it I haven't seen any noticable difference in yield or overall plant vigor really. I have been reading up and it seems that silica may just be another bullshit thing people r trying to hawk on us. What say the farmers. Do most of you use silica and see significant difference or have had simliar expierience to me?

Plants require silica to form sufficiently rigid cell walls. My own experience was that the plants were far better able to hold themselves up, and far better able to tolerate difficult conditions (rain, heat, cold, pests and disease). I try to get them their silica via the soil instead of having to foliar, but for indoors I'm happy to give via foliar. Doesn't take much, either, so it's a very cost effective form of prevention, health insurance.

All that said, it is VERY easy to overdo the Si. The 'if a little is good, then more must be better' ideology must be tossed out the window on this one.

midwestdensies · Oct 9, 2013

Lie? Stuff works and i use sparingly as well. Protekt for me

sealed138 · Oct 9, 2013

I use protekt for ph up also. Never had any issues with it. ( that I know of)

urbanfog · Oct 9, 2013

used protek for hydro and now use rice hulls in my mix, always noticed happier plants :)

Confuten1 · Oct 9, 2013

sealed138 said:
I use protekt for ph up also. Never had any issues with it. ( that I know of)

same here
confu

EveryOneSmokes · Oct 9, 2013

Silica is ideal, I've done runs with and without it and the difference is noticeable.. Wouldn't say it bumps yield like crazy but will help you get stronger stems which in turn keeps your girls upright instead of flopping over from heavy weight nugs.. Last run I was really happy with it I didn't have to many floppy Ogeez, they just leaned back a little this time which made the difference..

Btw if you can get AGR Bloom Silica (yellow bottles) it's the most bang for the buck in liquid form it has 40% silica, unless you like using dry version of silica..

Since I don't have it available I've been using Armor Si GH new silica it tops out at 10% silica which is better than rest of the brands out on shelves..

Shamus · Oct 9, 2013

id rather have my OG's or big buds flop then snap.. recommended doses of silica seem to lead plants to snap not flop.. still use it just to varying degrees here and there..

squiggly · Oct 9, 2013

Incorporation of silica into cell wall structures in the vast majority of plants is well documented. As EveryOneSmokes said, its the difference between a floppy bitch in late flower versus one who is holding all of her nugs up proudly for everyone to see.

It's not really something you're looking for to bump yield or improve flavor--it's something at the min/max level that helps a bit with manageability of the girls (and can prevent the dreaded broken stem).

midwestdensies · Oct 10, 2013

Healthier more robust plants make more robust nugs. If its stronger its stronger.

NightShift · Oct 10, 2013

Silica seems to make my bud burn better. It helps regulate the burn. Bud doesnt' burn up as quick. It smolders. Ash is white. I use silica blast and also Pr0tekt. depending on if I wanna give extra K or not.

homebrew420 · Oct 13, 2013

Silica bennies are "sorta". It may or maynot really help other than drought. I still use with neem.never seemed to do a thing in my experience when feeding. Didn't hurt either.
Just my 2cents
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The Silica Lie

The Silica Lie

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sixstring

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Moses249

Ever after

mastacheeser

Texas Kid

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green punk

Seamaiden

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midwestdensies

sealed138

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urbanfog

Confuten1

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EveryOneSmokes

Shamus

squiggly

midwestdensies

NightShift

homebrew420

The Silica Lie

The Silica Lie

Moses249

cannabeans

sixstring

jfizzle2cmu

Moses249

Ever after

mastacheeser

Texas Kid

Some guy with a light

green punk

Seamaiden

Living dead girl

midwestdensies

sealed138

First Starfighter

urbanfog

Confuten1

exploitin strengths - perfectin weaknessess

EveryOneSmokes

Shamus

squiggly

midwestdensies

NightShift

homebrew420

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