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They chlorinated our water allot.

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LoveGrowingIt said:
www.gardeningknowhow.com

Vitamin C For Chlorine Removal ā€“ Using Ascorbic Acid For Chlorine Absorption

Chlorine and chloramines are chemicals added to the drinking water in many cities. Itā€™s difficult if you donā€™t want to spray these chemicals on your plants since thatā€™s what comes out of your tap. What can a gardener do? Click here to learn how Vitamin C can help.
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Wow thats so cool! And probably cheaper than buying liquids to deal with it, maybe those same liquids use it. Im gonna look into vitamin C filters now, hopefully its available here in Spain, very useful information thank you! šŸ™
That said, if someone is thinking about using lemons to PH water and dechlorinate (Ive been there for PH) with vitamin C aka ascorbic acid, dont do it because citric acid is absorved much faster than other acids used to regulate PH in the soil and can burn your plants, dont be me! šŸ¤£
 
#23
Oldchucky said:
Also read that ascorbic acid neutralizing is temporary, and that the water can Re-chlorinate when it wears off! So, as always, do your due diligence!
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Thank you! Maybe an activated charcoal filter would do then? According to a model owned by Phillips it removes up to 99% of chlorides and other substances that might alter taste. As cheap as hydrogen peroxide is, I would like to give them better quality water because hydrogen peroxide doesnt filter anything, just decomposes chlorides but other noxious substances are still there, depending on where you live tap water can be really really nasty.
 
#24
From what Iā€™ve seen filtering is probably the better option! Nowadays, they donā€™t cost much, if you just use them for plants! If chlorine and chloramines are even a real problem! I have enough problems without conjuring up more in my mind! L O L! But mother, google usually tells me everything I need to know if I take the time to look! I may be 70, but I donā€™t take modern technology for granted anymore!
 
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Eledin said:
The first time I did it the smell was so pungent that I swore never to use it again untreated. I have to prepare my water 3 days in advance but with 8 liters jugs is really no big deal, I keep a few prepared and I rotate them, the new ones go to the untreated side, the dechlorinated ones go in the middle and the dechlorinated and dechloraminated ones go to the side closest to the door so I dont forget those are the ones ready to go. I live in a rural area so they dump a lot of chlorides into the water because the farms contaminate the water.
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We live pretty remote too and there is supposed to be a schedule of when they add treatment to the water tank. It never happens on any set schedule so I believe that Iā€™m going to apply your rotation idea. The chlorine has never been a huge problem but why take chances on that.
 
#27
I've never had an issue with tap water where it affected my plants.

Anytime I start a grow I pull up the local water report to see what nasties they're trying to filter out. I've run warehouse grows using all kinds of water filters and RO units and have not seen a difference from tap water. I understand why commercial grow operations use RO. Lots at stake so no reason to take any chances on contaminated water but we aren't growing at a commercial level. If you have an RO unit already in place then great. go for it but I don't see it as really being worth the money if you aren't doing it for human consumption only.

I live in an area where they cultivate 25% of the nations vegetables. Haven't seen an RO unit or dechlorination ponds on any of the irrigation systems they use.

In almost every case the dominant particles in the water are calcium and magnesium. Why would I want to filter out what my plants want and are typical deficiencies in weed cultivation? If the other particles are at very low levels I just don't bother.

If I'm running a DWC system then I would be more diligent in regard to water cleanliness but soil filters out a lot of that shit before it even reaches the plant.
 
#28
PooToe said:
I've never had an issue with tap water where it affected my plants.

Anytime I start a grow I pull up the local water report to see what nasties they're trying to filter out. I've run warehouse grows using all kinds of water filters and RO units and have not seen a difference from tap water. I understand why commercial grow operations use RO. Lots at stake so no reason to take any chances on contaminated water but we aren't growing at a commercial level. If you have an RO unit already in place then great. go for it but I don't see it as really being worth the money if you aren't doing it for human consumption only.

I live in an area where they cultivate 25% of the nations vegetables. Haven't seen an RO unit or dechlorination ponds on any of the irrigation systems they use.

In almost every case the dominant particles in the water are calcium and magnesium. Why would I want to filter out what my plants want and are typical deficiencies in weed cultivation? If the other particles are at very low levels I just don't bother.

If I'm running a DWC system then I would be more diligent in regard to water cleanliness but soil filters out a lot of that shit before it even reaches the plant.
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Well you have to consider several things that you might not notice and of course farmers are not gonna spend a lot of money on filtering water because the product comes good enough. Accumulation of salts in the substrate is worse in pots because in the ground they just keep going deeper when it rains or its irrigated, medicaments in your tap water (yes thats a thing, the US has too in many places, in here up to 25% is acceptable for drinking water... which also contains antibiotics) and many things that will never show up in your water report because they dont test for it (not in the available reports anyway). I agree, you dont need to dechlorinate or filter your water to produce good weed, its just a plus and in my case Im considering just an activated charcoal filter for the tap that costs 25 euros and can filter up to 1200 liters before you need to change the filter. RO systems will remove the goodies from the water which is counterproductive for farmers too but my base nutrients have all minerals and aminoacids and I think most brands do the same so you dont get deficiencies when using RO water, it also has a ph of 6,5 which is great if youre going bio-mineral or synthetic but I agree, for now is too expensive for me to even consider it.
EDIT: Also, again, it highly depends on where you live, knowing all the shit thats in there I cant let it be in my case, some places have pretty decent tap water but in my case is not only fields, its animals too. Their shit filtrates to the water, the pesticides filtrate to the water, theres medicaments in my water and a ton of chlorides to try to counteract all the cow, horse, chicken and pig shit and thats also the biggest source of antibiotics and hormones in the water but also human medications like antidepressants or aspirine.
Oh, I also reuse my soil 50% with 50% fresh soil with my own ammendments so I dont want shitty things in there that will keep piling. I do it mostly to be eco-friendly since peat is a non-renewable resource.
 
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Check it out its pretty interesting and it claims to filter other nasty substances aswell, not only chlorides. With a button you can alternate in between using the filter or not using the filter, so you dont need to remove it if you dont wanna waste the lifespan of your filter to use the water for something else like cleaning the dishes.
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#30
no one has said anything about uv light (other than direct sunlight) i just typed out 1/2 a fucking novel discussing this, that conveniently diapered on me, i'm not going to do it again.

suffice it to say, it's a very deep rabbit hole indeed, very interesting if you're into this.

check out uv lights for water treatment

be informed though that cannabis needs trace amounts of chloride:

"Recommended Levels of Chloride for Cannabis

Optimal Range: 70ā€“100 ppm (parts per million) in nutrient solutions or growing media.
Toxicity Threshold: Levels above 150 ppm may start causing chloride toxicity, especially in sensitive plants like cannabis."
(no direct sources cited)

way too much info for me to type out, look into it yourselves.

hope it helps

*edit to add; be very cautious if using uv as looking directly at it can damage your eyes (like looking @ the sun)

-peace- šŸ’Ŗ šŸ‘Š āœŒļø šŸŽ…šŸŽ¶
 

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#33
Galgrows said:
That's all he needs is another gadget so he can ask pages of questions about it.
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hey, i get it, tap water works for you.

others want to know how to safely remove chlorides, i offered a solution; nothing more, nothing less.

i'm not telling anyone to run out and buy a new "gadget" as you call it. i'm simply putting the info

out there on proven technology. take it or leave it, i don't really give a shit either way bc i use RO

water and it doesn't even pertain to me. i have shitty water i don't even like giving to my dogs.

i'v already said that there is a shit load of info on the subject (chlorides & how to remove them) out

there if anyone is interested. i'm not forcing anyone to "ask pages" about anything.

that's all -peace-šŸ’Ŗ šŸ‘Š āœŒļø šŸŽ…šŸŽ¶
 
#37
my favorite social study's teacher taught that questions are more important than

answers. the only way to get answers you want is to ask the right questions. i do

what i can to help out, while trying not to belittle or discourage people from asking

questions.

if you look back to the very beginning of this, he didn't even ask a question lmao,- šŸ¤£

he made a statement that implied a question. you offered a solution as did i and others,

i don't see what the issue here is, we all have the same goal, to learn how to better

our grows and try and help others along the way.

be careful what you ask (or don't ask) for; you might just get it

and as douglas adams asked: "how many roads must a man walk down?"

his answer: "42"... *all of them...

*my addition

-peace-šŸ’ŖšŸ‘ŠāœŒļøšŸŽ…šŸŽ¶
 
#38
I had a small illegal warehouse grow that I was taking care of for a friend that got a Master Grower gig in the middle of his grow. He asked me if I could take it to harvest while he was working at the other place. He had an RO filter that I've seen lots of larger places use. It was an Evolution 1000 from Hydrologic. It had a UV attachment that you could add to the filter to kill any harmful bugs in the water.

As nice as that thing was it used a shit ton of water. I know the new EVO1000's are 2 - 1 but he must have had one of their early models because it was a 3 - 1 unit. Thankfully the warehouse lease included water but I was always nervous the owner would come knocking on the door trying to find out why we used so much water.
 
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