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I am currently running 4000 digital ballasts with 1000 hps bulbs in a 10x10 Gorilla tent. I would like to change to either 4 600 gravitas or two 1000wt Db 9n light rails. Will I be able to manage my heat with two 424 cfm out takes and one 424cfm intake and 9f course I have multiple fans moving the air over and under the canopy. Will that be enough,also I have a dehumidifier in the tent too.
Well becausethe gravitas are much more on part
and more energy efficient
also the light is much better balanced than plain old hp bulbs
no framework and just better all around.
The 4 1000 wt lights I am running are wonderful but 8 believe the gravitas provide more and better light.
I think you are right but I am going to build a indoor high ceiling grow ,my grand expansion plans,the tent is a Gorilla so I can up to 9ft ,the staggered 600s make sense basicly they are supposedlymore effecient in the long run than 1000s,or so I have read. I found a 3 room with bathroom warehouse type space ,two rooms 14x16,one 10x10. A break area and a half bath no less for 800 mth. Drop ceilings,electricly sound,water non chloramated. So while the next run is going I think a build in if I can swing the spot. Got me dreaming and scheming lol.Flower room,veg ,clone room and a drying room.On part?
No Gavita's use a lil less than ~10% over thier output rated wattage. They are as efficient as everything else on the market. Not sure what you are reading/who are you talking to, but they are about as energy efficient as anything else that will fire a 1000w HID.
Which is irrelevant because that is not how chlorophyll works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorophyll
Now look at those graphs for both forms of chlorophyll - and now good look at the output graph on the back of your HPS bulb box. Notice anything similar?
Agreed. No supporting ductwork & cannon fans & giant reflectors is pretty cool - except -
- you are in a tent. And you want to replace some duct work you already have with two light movers you don't? This is less work - uh - how?
They won't. They will cost you just under $2000 to setup, so you can have half your tent in darkness all the time.
Gavita's are made for commercial spaces with 10 - 15' ceilings and multiple overlapping light sources with multi-ton A/C. They are not appropriate for you. Rock out with what you have. If you want to get more efficient, drop the 4x1000's for 6x600's and swap in some dual-arcs or something if you are really drinking that spectrum cool-aid.
Honestly, I think the upgrade is somewhat lateral, but not totally fucking backwards like swapping out 4x1000's for 2x1000's+light movers.
And those will have gravita dbls in the flower and led panels in the veg.I think you are right but I am going to build a indoor high ceiling grow ,my grand expansion plans,the tent is a Gorilla so I can up to 9ft ,the staggered 600s make sense basicly they are supposedlymore effecient in the long run than 1000s,or so I have read. I found a 3 room with bathroom warehouse type space ,two rooms 14x16,one 10x10. A break area and a half bath no less for 800 mth. Drop ceilings,electricly sound,water non chloramated. So while the next run is going I think a build in if I can swing the spot. Got me dreaming and scheming lol.Flower room,veg ,clone room and a drying room.
I agree ,you misunderstood, I am not going to put them in the tent,I might just run my 1000s at 650 next run but I will put the gravitas in the new build I am planning no tents high ceiling air splits etc. is what I was trying to say.Sorry to be vague there at the end of the tent conversation.I'll throw this out there. Dont get too rough on me, I would say with 4 gavies you will be struggling with heat control. Just my 2 cents......
And as @sedate mentioned you even with 9 feet ceiling really have a lot of head space with the gavies. Gavitas were designed for larger greenhouse commercial spaces. Strain dependent and training tech chosen you could run out of room quickly. Gavies run hot n bright as F%%% .... plus in a in a tent???? Not a chance!!
No worries. :)I agree ,you misunderstood, I am not going to put them in the tent,I might just run my 1000s at 650 next run but I will put the gravitas in the new build I am planning no tents high ceiling air splits etc. is what I was trying to say.Sorry to be vague there at the end of the tent conversation.
I am currently running 4000 digital ballasts with 1000 hps bulbs in a 10x10 Gorilla tent.
Why do you want to do that? What improvements/changes are you trying to make?
FWIW, If I had a 10x10 tent I would use 4x1000w HPS's or 6x600's.
the tent is a Gorilla so I can up to 9ft ,the staggered 600s make sense basicly they are supposedlymore effecient in the long run than 1000s,or so I have read.
I'm not a room designer by any means, but I've run quite a few lights, in quite a few setups.Actually I read a couple articles from some folks that tested 600s over 1000s and discovered that stsggered 600s at a slightly lower level (being possible with enclosed lights) saved power and the light levels were right on part with the 1000s and due to the staggered design much more effecient in light intensity and eliminated hot spots and so on. I just put this up because I find it interesting and doable. No I don't have money to blow. But I am building a bigger indoor permanent grow with flower room veg room and a drying processing room, all legal medical facilities. So I am just exploring all avenues. :)
Actually I read a couple articles from some folks that tested 600s over 1000s and discovered that stsggered 600s at a slightly lower level (being possible with enclosed lights) saved power and the light levels were right on part with the 1000s and due to the staggered design much more effecient in light intensity and eliminated hot spots and so on.. :)
Sure let me get that together for you,not at home at the momentCould you pass that info along?
I'm trying to figure out watts and Sq Ft now for a build. I'm starting from scratch, blank slate, and need a building. Thanks.
This^^^ some of the best solid advice ive heard in awhile. 6x600's would kill it in a 10 x 10 tent. Double endeds arent for everyone. Especially tent and small growers just because they "heard" they were the best. They arent. Not in yours and most other home hobby/tent grower situation. Anyways..6x600's in a 10 x 10 tent would be damn near perfect. A point source of light just about everywhere. And still leave good alleys/ends/perimeter for circ fans and the almost for sure air conditioner and dehuey that your going to need. Air cooled hoods or not..in the summer anyways your gonna need some sort of ac and dehuey. With all those fixtures...even if your use air cooled hoods with duct/inlines/glass...they only do so much. Radiant heat is gonna get ya in the sumner when air cooled hoods are just sucking in warmer air. Place the hood fans outside the tent and use insulated ducting...2 major sources pf radiant heat you can eliminate. Thereby cutting down on a.c. usage.On part?
No Gavita's use a lil less than ~10% over thier output rated wattage. They are as efficient as everything else on the market. Not sure what you are reading/who are you talking to, but they are about as energy efficient as anything else that will fire a 1000w HID.
Which is irrelevant because that is not how chlorophyll works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorophyll
Now look at those graphs for both forms of chlorophyll - and now good look at the output graph on the back of your HPS bulb box. Notice anything similar?
Agreed. No supporting ductwork & cannon fans & giant reflectors is pretty cool - except -
- you are in a tent. And you want to replace some duct work you already have with two light movers you don't? This is less work - uh - how?
They won't. They will cost you just under $2000 to setup, so you can have half your tent in darkness all the time.
Gavita's are made for commercial spaces with 10 - 15' ceilings and multiple overlapping light sources with multi-ton A/C. They are not appropriate for you. Rock out with what you have. If you want to get more efficient, drop the 4x1000's for 6x600's and swap in some dual-arcs or something if you are really drinking that spectrum cool-aid.
Honestly, I think the upgrade is somewhat lateral, but not totally fucking backwards like swapping out 4x1000's for 2x1000's+light movers.
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