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These are 2 flowering AFs. Day 26 day 13. I THINK it started about a week ago. Se. Lots of variables here. And the plant with all the issues has had a few. Light burn co² burn.. but this yellow at the vein that has shown up on a hand full of leaves on both plants. So im wondering if it's environmental. Since they're 2 weeks apart. The healthy one was still getting blood bud last feeding. The older one the domestic abuse plant. That hasn't had bud blood for almost 2 weeks. Now so feeding is different. My dehu wasn't hitting the target right so RH was down To 38% last 3 nights and I missed it wasn't watching.. in promix flx. 3 gal air pot Ro water Great white, advanced nutrients connoisseur, advanced b52 and calmag bud blood. Voodoo juice for the 1st 2 weeks of flower.. 800 watt led and 700 watt cmh which I rotate them between. PAR Is about 1100 right now with the low co2 levels. But will increase to 1400 incrementally once co2 goes up over 1000 depending on where they are. And co 2 is running on 1 hr Intervals with 5min air exchange currently at only 880ppm and going up 10ppm a day. My co2 burn happened 20 days ago. The air exchange wasn't set up right the first night. So it sat with the same co2 at somewhat high levels 1400 ish for 4 hrs. NL otherwise is healthy as an ox with a 16in top cola..!!
 
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Yeah on the short one. She definitely got burnt also about 20 days ago.. damn shame.. The other has no burnt leaf tips.. its thirsty today hence the slight leaf droop. Im feeding these damn 3 gal air pots ever 36 hrs.. never again!!
 
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Yeah on the short one. She definitely got burnt also about 20 days ago.. damn shame.. The other has no burnt leaf tips.. its thirsty today hence the slight leaf droop. Im feeding these damn 3 gal air pots ever 36 hrs.. never again!!
36hours?! I'm doing coco i'm feeding every 6 hours LMFAO never again for me too!!!!!!!!
 
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you need more plants to fill that space up is the prob...lol....more plants, more ways to Learn about what each one wants and reacts to...Not all plants flower or eat the same and every grow can be different...make adjustements and listen to the plants, as they know best....Grow with your Plants....i like the floor....
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Yeah, I just got rid of a bunch of mom plants because they got way too big (took cuts and got rid of them). I could have given them to you to fill up that space! Oh well.
 
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Looks hungry and possibly light burn or start of K deficiency, low nitrogen and looking like cal is about to become an issue also.

May not need more nutrients, could be watering practices (sounds like not often enough) and very high light for plants not dialed in.

High co2 won't be an issue especially 1400ppm.

Hopefully that helps
 
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SOB I did an inspection had a feeling that could be bugs maybe.. found this little white spider with a small web weaved between 2 blades on the same fan leaf. And another one I also killed with no visible web for that one.. I inspected hard. And quarantined it for 2 days.. Thought it was good. Suggestions?. Put it back outside maybe. I'm checking the other one now. .
 
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That's the idea that I had first looking at it TBH, early signs of bugs, I would look her over good, especially the undersides. Hopefully, that's the only critter. Remember; this time of year, every bug north of Texas is trying to find some place to lay her eggs and hole them up for the winter in a warm spot. Aside from the k+ issue, I would never feel bad about that one, cause it's an easy thing to do, and it's usually an easy, straightforward one to correct.

Remember K+ deficiency looks an awful like K+ excess, so know what your looking at. Your the only one who knows for sure how much salsa you've been putting on it. (I'm fixing taco's right now) lol 🤣
 
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SOB I did an inspection had a feeling that could be bugs maybe.. found this little white spider with a small web weaved between 2 blades on the same fan leaf. And another one I also killed with no visible web for that one.. I inspected hard. And quarantined it for 2 days.. Thought it was good. Suggestions?. Put it back outside maybe. I'm checking the other one now. .
That's a predatory spider.. not going to hurt your plants and probably help.
 
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Looks hungry and possibly light burn or start of K deficiency, low nitrogen and looking like cal is about to become an issue also.

May not need more nutrients, could be watering practices (sounds like not often enough) and very high light for plants not dialed in.

High co2 won't be an issue especially 1400ppm.

Hopefully that helps
So I think you are right. The amount of nutrients is good.i think correct me if I'm wrong.. Ive got rust spots popping up on middle aged fan leaves. With no signs of burning at the bottom.. Like you said cal mag def. It's the plants ability to use said nutrients. Is inhibited this can happen. Now I'm in soil. The cause could be 2 things. One. Coming up on the 3rd week. I was adding budblood every other watering for the first 2 weeks. And bud ignitor along with the full recommended 4ml per liter of advanced connoisseur . Last feed was 1800ppm. The high p or K I forget which to mag ratio can do this OR I'm at a ph of 5.9ish which can be low for soil. That coupled with high ppm is more likely the culprit?
 
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So I think you are right. The amount of nutrients is good.i think correct me if I'm wrong.. Ive got rust spots popping up on middle aged fan leaves. With no signs of burning at the bottom.. Like you said cal mag def. It's the plants ability to use said nutrients. Is inhibited this can happen. Now I'm in soil. The cause could be 2 things. One. Coming up on the 3rd week. I was adding budblood every other watering for the first 2 weeks. And bud ignitor along with the full recommended 4ml per liter of advanced connoisseur . Last feed was 1800ppm. The high p or K I forget which to mag ratio can do this OR I'm at a ph of 5.9ish which can be low for soil. That coupled with high ppm is more likely the culprit?
These 3 gal air pots are like all roots at this point. I tried watering with only RO and calmag one day and these middle fan leaves went instantly pale.. so I haven't been watering without nuets since. 2 weeks now. Maybe its time for a watering.. little sensienzyme and calmag. Would be my other thought. . Please please correct me if I'm wrong!!!
 
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These 3 gal air pots are like all roots at this point. I tried watering with only RO and calmag one day and these middle fan leaves went instantly pale.. so I haven't been watering without nuets since. 2 weeks now. Maybe its time for a watering.. little sensienzyme and calmag. Would be my other thought. . Please please correct me if I'm wrong!!!
Wait what you mean.. you said you watered with ro and calmag now you just want to give it water? If @Aqua Man said your underfeeding then it would mean you need more nutes not less.. What's your medium again? how often are you feeding/watering
 
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Oh what I could do in that room...heh......Try not to over think whats happening...Its all a natural process and just roll with it....Airpots wil keep you on your toes when they fill out cause they will drink and dehydrate much faster...Specially in bloom if you plan to bloom in those pots....
Do you need more genetics or something man?.....power to it
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btw Im not really following your issues just cause these guys are already....but I cant stop looking at that open space......really like nice and tidy clean enviros...
actually now that I look...is that panda film used for walls...and is there room on the back for air?....that might be a moisture trap..be aware...
 
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Oh what I could do in that room...heh......Try not to over think whats happening...Its all a natural process and just roll with it....Airpots wil keep you on your toes when they fill out cause they will drink and dehydrate much faster...Specially in bloom if you plan to bloom in those pots....
Do you need more genetics or something man?.....power to it
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btw Im not really following your issues just cause these guys are already....but I cant stop looking at that open space......really like nice and tidy clean enviros...
actually now that I look...is that panda film used for walls...and is there room on the back for air?....that might be a moisture trap..be aware...
Yeah.. lots of... .. unfilled room...I learned the panda liner lesson the hard way. yes that is panda liner. BuT. It is not up on the one wall that is drywalled. The other walls are steel studs. The panda liner is taped then screwed into the steel studs w self tappers then taped again. Insulated w r15 on 15in centers.there is a radiant heat barrier on the outside and Then there is plywood wrapping the outside and the top. Gaps are caulked on the outside with osi. And there was left over r38 from when I tore up the ceiling for the mini splits that I threw on top..
 
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Sorry im bad at explaining sometimes. I was saying the one time I did water with only RO and calmag my fan leaves had turned pale right away. Instantly showed a deficiency. 2 weeks since then I have fed every Now 24 hr feedings. I am using advanced nutrients connoisseur bloom a b 4ml pr ltr. Advanced calmag advanced b52 every water.alternating bud ignitor and blood bud every other water for the first 2 weeks of flower. We are on the 3rd week now. This really started to show after the last bud blood . Took it to far I guess. Looks like maybe nuet lockout. Angry at me whatever I did. I have sensizyme from advanced thinking water today w that and some recharge maybe . I had 2 fems in the same pots that I transplanted 2 weeks ago. If this is any indication of what the inside of these pots look like..
 
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