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Meat From Diseased Animals
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By Lance Gay <gayl(at)shns.com>
Scripps Howard News Service
http://www.gomemphis.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=DISEASEDFOOD-07-14-00&cat=WW
7-15-00


WASHINGTON - The federal agency overseeing food inspection is imposing new rules reclassifying as safe for human consumption animal carcasses with cancers, tumors and open sores.

Federal meat inspectors and consumer groups are protesting the move to classify tumors and open sores as aesthetic problems, which permits the meat to get the government's purple seal of approval as a wholesome food product.

"I don't want to eat pus from a chicken that has pneumonia. I think it's gross," said Wenonah Hauter, director of Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project. "Most Americans don't want to eat this sort of contamination in their meals."

Delmer Jones, a federal food inspector for 41 years who lives in Renlap, Ala., said he's so revolted by the lowering of food wholesomeness standards that he doesn't buy meat at the supermarket anymore because he doesn't trust that it is safe to eat.

"I eat very little to no meat, but sardines and fish," said Jones, president of the National Joint Council of Meat Inspection Locals, a union of 7,000 meat inspectors nationwide affiliated with the American Federation of Government Employees. He said he's trying to get his wife to stop eating meat. "I've told her what she's eating."

The union is battling related Agriculture Department plans to rely on scientific testing of samples of butchered meats to determine the wholesomeness of meat, rather than traditional item-by-item scrutiny by federal inspectors. A 1959 federal law requires inspectors from the Agriculture Department's Food Inspection and Safety System to inspect all slaughtered animals before they can be sold for human consumption.

The Agriculture Department began implementing the new policy as part of a pilot project in 24 slaughter houses last October, and plans to expand the system nationwide covering poultry, beef and pork. The agency this month extended until Aug. 29 the time for the public to comment on the regulations, and won't issue final rules until after the comments are received.

In 1998, the inspections and safety system reclassified an array of animal diseases as being "defects that rarely or never present a direct public health risk" and said "unaffected carcass portions" could be passed on to consumers by cutting out lesions.

Among animal diseases the agency said don't present a health danger are:

- Cancer;

- A pneumonia of poultry called airsacculitis;

- Glandular swellings or lymphomas;

- Sores;

- Infectious arthritis;

- Diseases caused by intestinal worms.

In the case of tumors, the guidelines state: "remove localized lesion(s) and pass unaffected carcass portions."

"They just cut off the areas,'' said Carol Blake, spokeswoman for the Agriculture Department's inspection and safety system.

But Jones and consumer groups say production lines are moving so fast that they can't catch all the diseased carcasses, and some are ending up on supermarket shelves.

"When I started inspecting, inspectors were looking at 13 birds a minute, then 40, and now it's 91 birds a minute with three inspectors. You cannot do your job with 91 birds a minute," Jones said.

The Agriculture Department is also experimenting with proposed rules that would require federal food inspectors to monitor what the plant employees are doing, rather than inspecting each carcass individually. They are aimed at bringing a new scientific approach to federal meat inspection to cut down on E. coli bacteria and other contamination.

The inspection and safety agency says a survey of pilot plants using the new system concluded that less than 1 percent of the poultry examined at the end of the production line and released for public consumption was unwholesome.

At a public hearing on the findings this year, Karen Henderson of Agriculture's division of field operations admitted that defective carcasses are being approved for human use under the pilot program.

"Absolutely. There's no system that we are aware of that is capable of removing every defect from the process," she said.

Felicia Nestor, director of the Government Accountability Project, a Washington watchdog group, said the pilot project found chickens with higher levels of fecal and other contamination than in traditional methods of inspecting.

"A lot of diseased animals are going out," she said.

A. Raymond Randolph, a federal appeals court judge, this month said federal food safety laws require meat and poultry inspectors to examine every carcass that moves through slaughterhouses and processing plants.

"The laws clearly contemplate that when inspections are done, it will be federal inspectors, rather than private employees, who will make the critical determination whether a product is adulterated or unadulterated," he said. "Under the proposed plan, federal inspectors would be inspecting people, not carcasses."
 
PButter

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Which brings me to the question: Can we possibly fuck up this world any faster than we are doing right now?
Disgusting. Well said.
 
Cherrorist

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That's just wrong:grumpy: here in the uk we had em sneaking horse into our burgers not too long ago, but I think this would definitely win any award in most disgusting meat product.
 
Canalchemist

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Another reason homesteading is so appealing to me, sorry hun can't eat that chicken it has a tumor on its ass and has worms, and Arthritis and open lesions, ya.

I am out.

Peace
 
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would this apply to local family run meat markets as well? or just large style production plants?
orr no way of really knowing unless its your own animals ur eating?
 
Canalchemist

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Pretty sure it applies to the big producers, homesteaders who eat there own would not be affected unless they of course they got diseased.
Peace
 
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oh jeez! just cant out words together right now.........vegan huh, sounding better and better
 
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Mmmmmmm, Pneumonia flavored chicken pus, finger lickin good!
:s

This is completely horrid. Wtf.
 
chickenman

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Pretty sure it applies to the big producers, homesteaders who eat there own would not be affected unless they of course they got diseased.
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Not really. the fix is in with the factory farms and the FDA and USDA.. $$$$$$ talks....
They have tried to implement things like NAIS national animal identification system where all livestock must be tagged and movements recorded and filed. the large factory farms would be exempt, an attempt to put the little guy out of business cost too much to survive.
They don't want us healthy, no profit in healthy people for big pharama and so called health care.....
Rules for certified organic using manure have made it impossible to use as there's a waiting period between application and harvest.
Monsanto has bought the patent for many heirloom seeds..
'Scary, that's why we do what we do.......
 
Canalchemist

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Not really. the fix is in with the factory farms and the FDA and USDA.. $$$$$$ talks....
They have tried to implement things like NAIS national animal identification system where all livestock must be tagged and movements recorded and filed. the large factory farms would be exempt, an attempt to put the little guy out of business cost too much to survive.
They don't want us healthy, no profit in healthy people for big pharama and so called health care.....
Rules for certified organic using manure have made it impossible to use as there's a waiting period between application and harvest.
Monsanto has bought the patent for many heirloom seeds..
'Scary, that's why we do what we do.......

I was referring to growing your own birds, I avoid store bought as much as possible, it is nice to have some 20 pound meat birds in the freezer.

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Canalchemist

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would this apply to local family run meat markets as well? or just large style production plants?
orr no way of really knowing unless its your own animals ur eating?

Locally run meat markets do supply local birds, however you need to ask where the birds came from, there are still plenty of farmers who make there living at farmers markets.

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chickenman

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I was referring to growing your own birds, I avoid store bought as much as possible, it is nice to have some 20 pound meat birds in the freezer.

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Growing you own poultry would be regulated if they got their way..
I have grown thousands of chickens for meat and eggs. The meat market poultry still has to be usda approved. too expensive for small producers, need to process thousands daily to make it worth the expense.
The way we do it blows away usda inspected poultry as far as clean meat....
We also raise a French Culinary meat chicken that grows slower, allowing meat to fully develop for a superior chicken in everyway, blows away the standard Cornish cross....
Best to find a farmer, get to know, have mraised for you., chances are meat market poultry is raised on GMO feed.
we mix and grind our own so we know...That's why we do what we do...
 
Canalchemist

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USDA must be strictly American, I have some family in Toronto Canada who spoke of the Locavore movement, I believe Locavore might even be a real word, means you eat only food which comes from a certain radius from your city like within a hundred miles for example.

I am not sure how it is regulated but in these markets you can buy anything locally produced, a lot like some of the Markets in Amsterdam.

It is more expensive which is why some people who live outside the municipality still raise there own chickens, it is perfectly legal in Canada and the Netherlands, the U.S. On the other hand I would be a gorilla farmer in some counties I am sure.

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That's just wrong:grumpy: here in the uk we had em sneaking horse into our burgers not too long ago, but I think this would definitely win any award in most disgusting meat product.
Probably had the jockey in as well lol.
I also remember some guys up north selling dyed "unfit for human consumption" chicken to food suppliers
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/dec/22/foodanddrink
Those a-holes should have been locked up and made to eat it themselves.
This is why we try and eat as little processed food as we can, which is difficult on a tight budget in the uk but well worth the extra effort and expense.
One of our goals is to have a smallholding where we can rear animals and grow crops how they should be. One day, hopefully...
 
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Meat From Diseased Animals
Approved For Consumers

By Lance Gay <gayl(at)shns.com>
Scripps Howard News Service
http://www.gomemphis.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=DISEASEDFOOD-07-14-00&cat=WW
7-15-00


WASHINGTON - The federal agency overseeing food inspection is imposing new rules reclassifying as safe for human consumption animal carcasses with cancers, tumors and open sores.

Federal meat inspectors and consumer groups are protesting the move to classify tumors and open sores as aesthetic problems, which permits the meat to get the government's purple seal of approval as a wholesome food product.

"I don't want to eat pus from a chicken that has pneumonia. I think it's gross," said Wenonah Hauter, director of Public Citizen's Critical Mass Energy Project. "Most Americans don't want to eat this sort of contamination in their meals."

Delmer Jones, a federal food inspector for 41 years who lives in Renlap, Ala., said he's so revolted by the lowering of food wholesomeness standards that he doesn't buy meat at the supermarket anymore because he doesn't trust that it is safe to eat.

"I eat very little to no meat, but sardines and fish," said Jones, president of the National Joint Council of Meat Inspection Locals, a union of 7,000 meat inspectors nationwide affiliated with the American Federation of Government Employees. He said he's trying to get his wife to stop eating meat. "I've told her what she's eating."

The union is battling related Agriculture Department plans to rely on scientific testing of samples of butchered meats to determine the wholesomeness of meat, rather than traditional item-by-item scrutiny by federal inspectors. A 1959 federal law requires inspectors from the Agriculture Department's Food Inspection and Safety System to inspect all slaughtered animals before they can be sold for human consumption.

The Agriculture Department began implementing the new policy as part of a pilot project in 24 slaughter houses last October, and plans to expand the system nationwide covering poultry, beef and pork. The agency this month extended until Aug. 29 the time for the public to comment on the regulations, and won't issue final rules until after the comments are received.

In 1998, the inspections and safety system reclassified an array of animal diseases as being "defects that rarely or never present a direct public health risk" and said "unaffected carcass portions" could be passed on to consumers by cutting out lesions.

Among animal diseases the agency said don't present a health danger are:

- Cancer;

- A pneumonia of poultry called airsacculitis;

- Glandular swellings or lymphomas;

- Sores;

- Infectious arthritis;

- Diseases caused by intestinal worms.

In the case of tumors, the guidelines state: "remove localized lesion(s) and pass unaffected carcass portions."

"They just cut off the areas,'' said Carol Blake, spokeswoman for the Agriculture Department's inspection and safety system.

But Jones and consumer groups say production lines are moving so fast that they can't catch all the diseased carcasses, and some are ending up on supermarket shelves.

"When I started inspecting, inspectors were looking at 13 birds a minute, then 40, and now it's 91 birds a minute with three inspectors. You cannot do your job with 91 birds a minute," Jones said.

The Agriculture Department is also experimenting with proposed rules that would require federal food inspectors to monitor what the plant employees are doing, rather than inspecting each carcass individually. They are aimed at bringing a new scientific approach to federal meat inspection to cut down on E. coli bacteria and other contamination.

The inspection and safety agency says a survey of pilot plants using the new system concluded that less than 1 percent of the poultry examined at the end of the production line and released for public consumption was unwholesome.

At a public hearing on the findings this year, Karen Henderson of Agriculture's division of field operations admitted that defective carcasses are being approved for human use under the pilot program.

"Absolutely. There's no system that we are aware of that is capable of removing every defect from the process," she said.

Felicia Nestor, director of the Government Accountability Project, a Washington watchdog group, said the pilot project found chickens with higher levels of fecal and other contamination than in traditional methods of inspecting.

"A lot of diseased animals are going out," she said.

A. Raymond Randolph, a federal appeals court judge, this month said federal food safety laws require meat and poultry inspectors to examine every carcass that moves through slaughterhouses and processing plants.

"The laws clearly contemplate that when inspections are done, it will be federal inspectors, rather than private employees, who will make the critical determination whether a product is adulterated or unadulterated," he said. "Under the proposed plan, federal inspectors would be inspecting people, not carcasses."

http://www.snopes.com/photos/food/diseasedmeat.asp

Yup, almost got me there.
 
neverbreak

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what the fuckin fuck? that is totally fucked up! irrespective of whether that is actually not recent news or not, that is so wrong. perhaps i can understand the science behind meat from animals with tumors not necessarily being unsafe to eat, tho i'd def steer clear of it myself, but the general idea of eating meat from diseased animals does not sit well with me. meat from animals with intestinal worms? no thanks.

neverbreak
 
Canalchemist

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All the animals that are slaughtered and sold in Most Canadian meat Markets do not have these issues, mostly because they are not exposed to them.

I agree that some animals should not be introduced into the food chain due to disease that is often caught and delt with immediately
 
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I could really go for a steak right now, maybe a drumstick or two
 

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