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Feb.21 - Today seeds went into shot glasses until until they sink. Assume a couple of days +/-. Starting with feminized seeds from two different seed banks. A. OG Kush B. Amnesia C. White Widow D. Cream Cheese. Planning on 16 - 8 light schedule. Feb. 22 -...
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Feb.21 - Today seeds went into shot glasses until until they sink. Assume a couple of days +/-. Starting with feminized seeds from two different seed banks. A. OG Kush B. Amnesia C. White Widow D. Cream Cheese. Planning on 16 - 8 light schedule.
Feb. 22 - All seeds sunk over night so they went into individual paper towel baggies and into the warming cabinet that my wife uses to let bread rise.
Feb. 23 - Seeds sprouted and into solo cups. Just in time because my light arrived today.
Feb. 24- Moving slowly. I like to think of the Basil and Chives as a Canary in a Coal Mine.
Feb.25- I started all my seeds in Ocean Forest yesterday morning after sprouting and 36 hours later the first - OG Kush popped up
March 5- Plants are moving slowly but looking healthy. I have not installed the door to the grow room in the basement yet so I have no way of controlling the temp. Hence its 60 degrees in there. But moving slow is fine with me because they are eventually going outside and I don't want them to big.
 
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March 10- Day 10 for A. OG Kush B. Amnesia C. White Widow. All 3 seem to be doing well and look healthy to me.
March 11- Wondering when to transplant into a larger container? They are only 11 days old but very bushy. Also considering buying a tent to control temp and humidity in my grow room or should I just build out the grow room? Do I need a tent if I have a dedicated grow room? The room is about 8'x10' with 9' tall ceiling but it is in the basement under the front stoop. Concrete on 5 surfaces with metal decking. So its only about 64degrees currently.

Transplant complete into 3 gallon pots


. They have received 1/4 dose of Full Bloom x2 over the 11 days. I never soaked and let them completely dry out. Mostly just spray on the top of the soil multiple times a day.
March 17- 17 days old, from sprout. Decided to buy a tent so what the ****. It will save thousands of dollars in the end after I never have to purchase flower again. I bought the Spider sf-2000. Assembly was pretty easy. Some of the directions these days tho? So considering the age and appearance does anything look like it needs to be done to any of these 3?
 
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Day 19. I wasn't completely sure but I went ahead with topping all three. Hopefully somewhat correctly. One question: how do I know if they need any additional nutes such as cal-mag, or...?
 
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Day 23 from sprout in soil. Topped at day 18. Fed with Big Bloom and Grow Big in Ocean Forest soil. In a Spider Farmer Grow Tent Kit Complete SF-2000 LED Grow Light Dimmable Full Spectrum Use Samsung LM301B Diodes MeanWell Driver 24" x 47" x 71" Growing Tent 1680D 4 Inch Ventilation System Setup Package. A couple of questions that I actually know of: 1. What setting and fixture height should I be at? 2. Should I be adding any other nutes at this point? Anything that I don't know to ask the question?



 
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Dont add nutes yet. What is the ph of the water source you are using? Looking good so far!
 
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Looks like New York is finally passing a recreational cannabis bill which allows for 6 plants per individual and 12 per household. Looks like I will be growing 12 plants outside this summer. I am interested to hear how the change affected others when it legalized.
 
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Can a moderator change the name of this thread to: "First legal outdoor grow in New York" thank you
 
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Looks like New York is finally passing a recreational cannabis bill which allows for 6 plants per individual and 12 per household. Looks like I will be growing 12 plants outside this summer. I am interested to hear how the change affected others when it legalized.
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Rules are the same, tell no one
Going outside you will want to use neem oil and later btk, just as they start flowering. Also, harden the plants in shade for a couple days before putting them in direct sunlight. Good luck.
 
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Day 35 All 3 still looking good. I have been trying to use these little bendy clip things that I bought. Not working for me. I snapped 2 lower branches that I was experimenting with. Does it look like I need to do some defoliation on any? The Amnesia and OG Kush are very bushy.
 
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Day 35 All 3 still looking good. I have been trying to use these little bendy clip things that I bought. Not working for me. I snapped 2 lower branches that I was experimenting with. Does it look like I need to do some defoliation on any? The Amnesia and OG Kush are very bushy.
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The branches are more pliable after a good water or feeding.
 
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Day 35 All 3 still looking good. I have been trying to use these little bendy clip things that I bought. Not working for me. I snapped 2 lower branches that I was experimenting with. Does it look like I need to do some defoliation on any? The Amnesia and OG Kush are very bushy.
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Nar not if they are going outside..they will go Boom once out in the glorious sun..
 
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Started hardening plants for a few hours today. It will be 57 degrees out. I am going to transplant the 3 into 20 gallon fabric pots and sit them between the fruit trees in the garden.

 
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+/- 40 days from soil pop. Some more hardening and utilizing the suns power. I am concerned with hours of daylight or I would transplant into 20 gal fabric pots and move them into cover if the weather requires. Is this a valid concern? Would I be causing more stress then good? The small seedling CBD only plants in the cattle trough I just left out overnight as an experiment and they are fine today.
 
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+/- 43 days from soil pop. I topped each plant in at least 3 spots yesterday and trimmed some under leaves and some damage from the suns hardening and drying out. I did a full water flush, until I received just a little bit of run off. I think this is the first time I have really fully fed. Good or bad it seems to be working. Still going into the tent for additional light and temps at night. I am trying to get the light length down from 18/6 as quickly as I can. It's a pain bringing them in and out. I am thinking of taking 2 clones from each in the next couple of days. Oh and I need to transplant into 20 gallon fabric homes soon that they will stay in the garden outside. They are growing machines. Any thoughts on this?
 
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Rules are the same, tell no one
Going outside you will want to use neem oil and later btk, just as they start flowering. Also, harden the plants in shade for a couple days before putting them in direct sunlight. Good luck.
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I have read some bad things about neem oil. Isn't it banned in Canada?
 
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I have read some bad things about neem oil. Isn't it banned in Canada?
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It’s organic, but it will burn the leaves in sunlight. I spray twice in early veg at sundown. Same with btk in early flower for caterpillars.
 
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I have read some bad things about neem oil. Isn't it banned in Canada?
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Part of the issue is that it is systemic. It's also indiscriminate in the pests it targets. It affects pollinators all the same as leaf eaters, and that's why its use is recommended only at night outdoors. I personally don't like how the stuff smells, reminds me of molasses.

Spinosad is just as effective (if not moreso) and also organic, and doesn't kill pollinators. AFAIK, both are banned in Canada.
 
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Part of the issue is that it is systemic. It's also indiscriminate in the pests it targets. It affects pollinators all the same as leaf eaters, and that's why its use is recommended only at night outdoors. I personally don't like how the stuff smells, reminds me of molasses.

Spinosad is just as effective (if not moreso) and also organic, and doesn't kill pollinators. AFAIK, both are banned in Canada.
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Spinosad kills bees, neem only kills leafeaters but apply it late in the day or at night so it dries.
 
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It’s organic, but it will burn the leaves in sunlight. I spray twice in early veg at sundown. Same with btk in early flower for caterpillars.
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Thanks for the tip on spraying at sundown. I burned a couple leaves the other day because I sprayed during daylight. I was wondering why they were burned all of a sudden cuz they've been super healthy. Won't make that mistake again!
 
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Good to know regarding bees because our hives are fairly close by.
 
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