Timing help needed

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Howdy ya'll!


If you take a peek at my gallery you'll see what was originally going to be a top-feed "fence post" system.

Threw five well-rooted clones (in 2" rockwool cubes) into 3.75" net pots which I back-filled with the little rockwool bits. Needless to things didn't pan out:

Two of the five refused to throw down roots (they didn't need to as they had more than enough water in that damn rockwool!) and were, therefore, over watered. I pulled 'em out, gave 'em a breather, and cut my top-feeding to once a day on the remaining three.

To make a looooong story only slightly shorter I learned real quick that in this enclosed non-evaporating system rockwool was not the way to go so I pulled all five, back-filled the net pots with Hydroton around the rockwool starter cubes, and resumed top-feeding. Growth was okay at best. As the roots exit the net pots they were browning out and air-pruning themselves. Not cool...

I yanked the whole top-feed manifold and ran a "laser line" which is nothing more than a spray line inside the pipe. Things seem much happier now. The root tips are no longer browning out and air-pruning themselves so the spray/mist/humidity in the pipe seems to be doing it's job.

I don't want to over or, of course, under-water, so I've been hitting them with 15 minutes on/45 minutes off when the lights are on and I give them 2 15 minute shots during the night to keep the roots from drying out.


Any suggestions on an "optimal" shedule? This small system will only be used for vegetative growth and once they are about 12" tall and topped a couple times they will be moved over to our tried-and-true 100% ghetto top-feed table that is also in my gallery. No problems there- 15 on/45off 100% rockwool has worked great for years. What we'll do from now on is simply plant the entire net pot in the larger pots on the table, back-fill with rockwool bits, jam the spaghetti lines halway down the side on the upstream side of each pot, and let 'em go. No worries at all with the top-feed table.

It's this brilliant idea of mine using fence-posts, trying to keep things neat, clean, self-contained, and minimal maintenance, that has caused all the grief!

I guess my main questions can be summarised as follows:

Is my 15on/45 off cool or would I benefit from running feed constantly?

None of the sprays hit the pots directly as I assume I'd be setting myself up for rotten roots. The splash/spray bouncing around in the pipe seems to be wetting the hydroton nicely with all but the top inch getting wet.

I've gotten a lot of varying suggestions from 24/7 to just a few short bursts and everything in between.
I'd really appreciate something definative if possible.

As it stands I feel pretty good about where I'm at right now but of course I always want to fine tune things and of course prevent any problems before they arise.

I've roots about 1" long poking out of the net pots beautifully. I hope to avoid problems later when they get longer so here I am trying to plan ahead and prevent problems.

If you good farmers would be so kind as to take a peek at my gallery, give it some thought, and throw your collective wisdom out here I would be forever grateful.

Thanks.

Keep it green ya'll!


Peace,

genEric
 
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That was too wordy so I just skimmed.

You now have aeroponic (not 100% aeroponic) chambers. Just go 24/7. You may want to seal the top of the net pots. If a fan is blowing the roots could dry up easy.
 
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IMHO you will just need to do some trial and error test. Start with 24/7 then start backing it down very slowly, little steps at a time watching the plants react closely. You will eventually come to a "general" timing feed that will still need future "tweaking" depending on strain and environment conditions but it will be easily managed at that point.

The more you can "back down" on the watering times without seeing ill effects from the plants, the more efficient your system will become on water usage and nutrient cost which is very important as well. The more efficient your system is, the more "dialed in" it will be as the two go hand in hand.

Let the plants tell you how often to water. Environment conditions like humidity, day and night time temps, air flow will all play into the equation.
 
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Right on you guys- thanks. I know it was a long read...


Plants are looking really nice and growth is pretty impressive already.

Conclusion: I've ramped-up to 15on/15off @ 24/7 as of today and will dial-in as needed. I can definitely read a plant as I've been a lifelong gardener.

Root growth blows me away. They're growing 1-2" per day and literally hundreds are popping out of the net pots. No browning, no signs of over-watering, etc. They smell like fresh cucumber so I'm calling 'em healthy roots for sure.

Up top growth is equally impressive. Mind you these are mere seedlings but they are growing about 1" per day and will (hopefully) ramp up as the root mass develops. They've been topped once and new growth settles in to a nice deep green after the initial light-green spouts.

Looking good. Thanks SO much.


Peace,

genEric
 
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A little update:

I innoculated with Great White six days ago. Roots have literally exploded and, subsequently, topside growth has blown up as well.

15on/15off sure seems to be doing the trick- I've never seen plants grow this fast!

The two little waterlogged runts from my first post? They've almost caught up with the rest. They threw down a few taproots and then once the fishbones popped the plants started reachig for the sky and growth has literally exploded.

Freakin' awesome!

I was worried these wouldn't be ready to flip by mid-January (to stay in rotation) but now I'm starting to wonder how I'm gonna keep 'em trained low enough (for his ScrOG) until then. My finish guy is gonna poop his BVDs when I bring these over trailing 3' roots behind 'em...


Thanks and peace,

genEric
 
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