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SeaF0ur · Sep 13, 2015

Lazerus00 said:
Oh also I found this to be pretty interesting...
If you go to that site and read about half way down when they go into their AACT recipe it says NEVER USE BLACKSTRAP MOLASSES!! Now I personally use a cpl tablespoons when brewing teas but am excited to try some Progressive Farms Earth Syrup I got on the way...but i digress....It goes on to say that simple sugars/carbs like that found in molasses is like junkfood for the bennies and really most people end up brewing anaerobic teas most of the time bc the bacteria takes over and nothing else lives...Again this is all coming from them but I feel like im curious what yous guys opinions/experiences are with this...

I use organic agave nectar. see below.

Pimp T said:
Thru a bunch of research all ive gathered from compost teas is that u get microbes nothing more unless you add shit like kelp etc. why do all that brewing n shit when u can just get a powdered or liquid microbial innoculant like orca or photo plus or the slept on foxfarm root drench liquid thats more diverse that any of those. I could be wrong about compost teas but from everything ive gathered thats my conclusion.

You will never get AEROBIC organisms from a bottled product... only ANAEROBES.

I must point you to my friend Dr Tim Wilson. Some of you may know him as MicrobeMan. He is the end all be all in the field of microbial extrapolations (aerated compost teas). In fact he owns the patent on the cone bottom brewer. He's spent more time with his face to a microscope than anyone else I know.
His forum is LogicalGardener.org and his website is MicrobeOrganics.com

jumpincactus · Sep 13, 2015

Mr. Wilson knows his shit for sure.

Lazerus00 · Sep 13, 2015

Woah!! That got a lil intense for a min but I am always glad to see things get resolved peacefully!! I've met some really solid people on this thread and have been helped out more times then I can count! I am truly greatful to @Tnelz and @Power OG for being real OG's and always being straight up, thats why the idea of someone coming here for selfish reasons and disrespecting my #flamegang get me all sorts of pissed!! Anyway like I said i am glad the drama is over (for now) and we can get back to biznass!! HAPPY SUNDAY FUNDAY FARMERS!!

jumpincactus · Sep 13, 2015

Lazerus00 said:
Woah!! That got a lil intense for a min but I am always glad to see things get resolved peacefully!! I've met some really solid people on this thread and have been helped out more times then I can count! I am truly greatful to @Tnelz and @Power OG for being real OG's and always being straight up, thats why the idea of someone coming here for selfish reasons and disrespecting my #flamegang get me all sorts of pissed!! Anyway like I said i am glad the drama is over (for now) and we can get back to biznass!! HAPPY SUNDAY FUNDAY FARMERS!!

well said friend :D

Lazerus00 · Sep 13, 2015

SeaF0ur said:
I use organic agave nectar. see below.

You will never get AEROBIC organisms from a bottled product... only ANAEROBES.

I must point you to my friend Dr Tim Wilson. Some of you may know him as MicrobeMan. He is the end all be all in the field of microbial extrapolations (aerated compost teas). In fact he owns the patent on the cone bottom brewer. He's spent more time with his face to a microscope than anyone else I know.
His forum is LogicalGardener.org and his website is MicrobeOrganics.com

Thanks for the info as always big homey!!! I used to use that stuff all the tie bartending and honestly never thought about it to use in teas!! Awesome suggestion bro!!

Lazerus00 · Sep 13, 2015

jumpincactus said:
well said friend :D

I always got your back fam!! And that goes to all my family here!! You all know who you are and know if y'all ever need anything I got you!! #flamegang #T'sOGgrowSquad

chillywilly · Sep 13, 2015

Black strap molasses is knarly...
Try as Jerry Baker says try beer, and/ or liquor... Rum, Brandy... Let sit out for a few days to eliminate alcohol, and then feed 2 oz gal to feed sugars to plant... Like a shot to the arm...
cw

jumpincactus · Sep 13, 2015

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SeaF0ur said:
I use organic agave nectar. see below.

You will never get AEROBIC organisms from a bottled product... only ANAEROBES.

I must point you to my friend Dr Tim Wilson. Some of you may know him as MicrobeMan. He is the end all be all in the field of microbial extrapolations (aerated compost teas). In fact he owns the patent on the cone bottom brewer. He's spent more time with his face to a microscope than anyone else I know.
His forum is LogicalGardener.org and his website is MicrobeOrganics.com

@SeaF0ur Let me prefcae with I like and respect the farmer you are. I need help to clarify some information I have concerning organic agave nectar. If this info is legit it will be nice to get your input or anyone that can call BS on this article. I actually stopped using agave nectar as my thinking is if it isnt good for me it isnt good for my critters either.

I am open to all of your valued opinions. Here is the link. Please take a moment and get back to me if this is based on solid info. Thanks farmers http://www.foodrenegade.com/agave-nectar-good-or-bad/

chillywilly · Sep 13, 2015

On my other... I use stevia tea ,ad I normally do with my teas, brew with Mr. Coffee maker and make the most potent tea mix called ' hot water extraction, I got a Peru sea bird guanos extract 8 yrs old...super potent, all NPK There just add minerals... I'm now using golden tree to fortify... Long time veganic nute user to bring highest quality to users... See my past here...compared to Cervantes... We on same level...
Peace cw...

chillywilly · Sep 13, 2015

Or raw honey,...

gardnguyahoy · Sep 13, 2015

jumpincactus said:
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@SeaF0ur Let me prefcae with I like and respect the farmer you are. I need help to clarify some information I have concerning organic agave nectar. If this info is legit it will be nice to get your input or anyone that can call BS on this article. I actually stopped using agave nectar as my thinking is if it isnt good for me it isnt good for my critters either.

I am open to all of your valued opinions. Here is the link. Please take a moment and get back to me if this is based on solid info. Thanks farmers http://www.foodrenegade.com/agave-nectar-good-or-bad/

I too heard this was bad awhile back. And recently on this forum, i heard that some folks supplement molasses with it and that its not good for your plant either.

This was an overall bummer cause i really liked to eat it with corn chex! (bomb):rolleyes:

I was told by the homie not to use either, and to supplement my sugars with aphrodites extraction by nftg. Which i did. However i still miss it on my corn chex.

Id love to hear this topic discussed into further detail as well

Tnelz · Sep 13, 2015

At the end of the day bacteria are like anything else that eats. Any sugar source will feed them but different sugar sources will appeal to different microbial populations. I use afrodities extraction primarily but still use molasses or agave nectar from time to time as well. I've also used the juice from sugar cane as well. Any will work. The difference imo is what else do they do. Molasses brings some npk value as well as Cal and mag. However to much of it isn't awesome for ur roots. Same can be said of agave nectar except it's an easier amino acid chain for ur microbes to break down. Also offers some npk and Cal and mag. It's a preference thing at the end of the day.

Toaster79 · Sep 13, 2015

chillywilly said:
Dannyboy under supergrowled 250w full spectrum... now flipped... 3 Plants ...check my specs...
cw..

Drop your light some. They are reaching for it and leaning toward the center of the light. What is that unit? Looks like those LEDs are way to focused. Are there secondary optics in front of those emitters?

jumpincactus · Sep 13, 2015

gardnguyahoy said:
I too heard this was bad awhile back. And recently on this forum, i heard that some folks supplement molasses with it and that its not good for your plant either.

This was an overall bummer cause i really liked to eat it with corn chex! (bomb):rolleyes:

I was told by the homie not to use either, and to supplement my sugars with aphrodites extraction by nftg. Which i did. However i still miss it on my corn chex.

Id love to hear this topic discussed into further detail as well

Pisses me off really, cause if the process to get the agave nectar is really using this chemical constituents then it really aint organic is it.

Tnelz · Sep 13, 2015

Would also like to say I read earlier someone said castings and compost make it so aact isn't needed. I personally don't believe it's ever actually needed however any time u add aact it's not for nothing. It will always add microbes and there is no such thing as too many microbes. The higher ur microbial populations the better ur plant will do period.

jumpincactus · Sep 13, 2015

Tnelz said:
Would also like to say I read earlier someone said castings and compost make it so aact isn't needed. I personally don't believe it's ever actually needed however any time u add aact it's not for nothing. It will always add microbes and there is no such thing as too many microbes. The higher ur microbial populations the better ur plant will do period.

Truer words,,,,,,, I want so many many critters I have to build a critter condo for them all!!!!

Tnelz · Sep 13, 2015

Lastly I'd like to say this personally. This thread is to get a bunch of passionate people in one place. Whatever genetic passing that goes on is totally cool but listen. New people please hang around for a good long time before asking for things. Most of us got where we are because we cultivated real relationships before ever even thinking of asking. I never asked for anything untill I had prime genetics to offer first. It's just protocol ya know. And I want to be very clear. Power and I don't share flowers. Not one time ever. So please never ever contact me or anyone and ask for flowers. It's just wrong and a sure fire way to get ur self looked at negatively. And please even if we know each other don't assume I'd cosign anything for u. Not cuz I don't think ur ok or anything but I don't vouch for anyone past "he seems ok" unless I've done a transaction of some sort that included u. I'm not talking specific here just making myself clear. I got love for everyone and everyone knows I share when I can but listen when people try and give u clues on how to act. Respect and good vibes y'all!

jumpincactus · Sep 13, 2015

Tnelz said:
Lastly I'd like to say this personally. This thread is to get a bunch of passionate people in one place. Whatever genetic passing that goes on is totally cool but listen. New people please hang around for a good long time before asking for things. Most of us got where we are because we cultivated real relationships before ever even thinking of asking. I never asked for anything untill I had prime genetics to offer first. It's just protocol ya know. And I want to be very clear. Power and I don't share flowers. Not one time ever. So please never ever contact me or anyone and ask for flowers. It's just wrong and a sure fire way to get ur self looked at negatively. And please even if we know each other don't assume I'd cosign anything for u. Not cuz I don't think ur ok or anything but I don't vouch for anyone past "he seems ok" unless I've done a transaction of some sort that included u. I'm not talking specific here just making myself clear. I got love for everyone and everyone knows I share when I can but listen when people try and give u clues on how to act. Respect and good vibes y'all!

Bravo man. I wish I could be as eloquent as you bro!!! Well said

chillywilly · Sep 13, 2015

Toaster79 said:
Drop your light some. They are reaching for it and leaning toward the center of the light. What is that unit? Looks like those LEDs are way to focused. Are there secondary optics in front of those emitters?[/QUOTE
I'm bout to drop now...peace... They grew to the light from start...at 2"... On flip mode now

chillywilly · Sep 13, 2015

That's super grow LED USA made... Top ranking...
cw...

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