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I had this idea a while ago...but I never got around to designing it, & just did a normal scrog. But this is brilliant. Expensive, but brilliant.

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holey moley!! I freaking love those!!! Im deff gonna buy 1 to try out....since i work in tents these obvi wouldn't be the smartest choice but whenever i get a room in the future, having a bunch of these would be SO convienient!
 
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@lemons

Do you mean the dance competion? or the hippie gathering?
 
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so we have been watching making a murderer. the one thing I don't get is why would the 16 year old nephew be saying he did it if he didn't do it. Brendan knows what happened, whether he is LD or not, he knows what happened. I think Steven Avery did it, but I still have to finish the series or whatever... I think Avery thought that he could get away with it after 18 years of false imprisonment, "no one would expect it from him."

did you all see the stock market fall? fell yesterday and falling 500 points so far today. I don't know how it directly affects me but I know it isn't good when it falls like this.
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You think he did it?! You realize Brendan said what he did cause they made him say it right? Have you watched the interview between Brendan and the officers? They kept leading him to say what they wanted. Kids slow man and he had no idea what was going on.

Cops are taught to get a confession not the truth, plain and simple.

Let's not forget how they interviewed him 2 times with no attorney or his mom present, which being a minor is a big no no. They knew what they were doing.
 
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did you all see the stock market fall? fell yesterday and falling 500 points so far today. I don't know how it directly affects me but I know it isn't good when it falls like this.
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Just rich people trading money
they'll blame anything on a stock market dip
Gas is too expensive
Gas is too cheap
China passed gas...
 
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You think he did it?! You realize Brendan said what he did cause they made him say it right? Have you watched the interview between Brendan and the officers? They kept leading him to say what they wanted. Kids slow man and he had no idea what was going on.

Cops are taught to get a confession not the truth, plain and simple.
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Yeah I seen the interview, but a couple episodes later when they were talking about his defense he wrote is "statement" about what "really happened," with the cops not in the room, just his lawyers investigator, he drew that picture of her tied to the bed, hands were tied with rope, feet were tied with chains. how would he have known that detail, when he didn't have cops planting it in his head at that time? it's just too convenient that he would just make something up like that... I know he is mentally challenged and has no idea what's going on, but what would make him draw that?
 
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You think he did it?! You realize Brendan said what he did cause they made him say it right? Have you watched the interview between Brendan and the officers? They kept leading him to say what they wanted. Kids slow man and he had no idea what was going on.

Cops are taught to get a confession not the truth, plain and simple.

Let's not forget how they interviewed him 2 times with no attorney or his mom present, which being a minor is a big no no. They knew what they were doing.
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true story...sad but absolutely true...they will lie thru their teeth just to hear what they want
 
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Yeah I seen the interview, but a couple episodes later when they were talking about his defense he wrote is "statement" about what "really happened," with the cops not in the room, just his lawyers investigator, he drew that picture of her tied to the bed, hands were tied with rope, feet were tied with chains. how would he have known that detail, when he didn't have cops planting it in his head at that time? it's just too convenient that he would just make something up like that... I know he is mentally challenged and has no idea what's going on, but what would make him draw that?
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Did you see that later he said none of that happened and what if his stories didn't match up. Kid was straight tricked into saying what he did.
 
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Did you see that later he said none of that happened and what if his stories didn't match up. Kid was straight tricked into saying what he did.
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the kid will never really say what happened. he is too dumb and too scared to really say what happened. he is so inconsistent nothing he ever said should be used, and he is not competent enough to stand trial. if the manitowoc police set him up, they did it just barely good enough
 
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the one thing I don't get is why would the 16 year old nephew be saying he did it if he didn't do it. Brendan knows what happened, whether he is LD or not, he knows what happened.
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It's a phenomenon that occurs with people in authority vs not only an LD person, but young people in general. Did you see the video of his confession yet? If you see it, you'll know it's obviously bs. They fed him the lines, & he said yes or no. Most of the time, his answers were not what they wanted. When he said "yes" but they wanted a "no", they would prompt him & ask him again. To which he would say yes. He just wanted to go home, & having been in that room before myself, they will do anything, to get you to say anything. A girl was raped in McDonalds by a man on the phone pretending to be a cop. The man on the phone got the female Mcdonalds manager to get the girl in the office, take off her clothes. The manager had to get to work, so she called her fiancé in. The man on the phone told the fiance to have her do jumping jacks, & eventually give him a BJ!!! (It's all on video) The Avery kid, they saw coming from a mile away.

When I was in the booth one time they told me I had 180 ecstasy pills (it wasn't, & I knew it wasn't. It was a whole other drug that I had just sold to someone. They told me so many lies you wouldn't believe me if I told you. "They had the lab results that it was Ecstacy, I was going away for 20 years if I didn't give them my dealer, the other people in the car told them who I get it from, & his name was _______, That I had been under surveillance for over a year, they have video etc."

Almost 4 hours of harassing me, with utter bs. It wasn't ecstacy (it was anabolic steroids I had just sold someone) & everyone on my side knew that. They wouldn't rat me out in the first place. None of us knew this "Jersey" dude they wanted us to name. They intimated that they would start framing up my family members. My sister didn't have an arrest record, wouldn't it be a shame if she were to get pulled over & fail a sobriety test. Same with my uncles.

A person who is not smart enough to know what they are doing, will often confess, just to make it stop. At the end of the video, he says he told them what they wanted, so now can he go home?

60 minutes did an episode about the phenomenon, you could probably find it. But long story short, as incredible as that video is, & all the terrible things they did to this girl (who was just accused of stealing something by the way) most people can be influenced to do almost anything. You may not have fallen for it, but others do.

I don't doubt that Avery is a bad guy. I wouldn't doubt it if he had killed someone. But they framed him up once & put him in jail for 18 years!! For a crime that was later proved to be someone else, that they didn't even look into!

The second time around, there is at least too many things out of place....I certainly have reasonable doubts. If he killed her there like the kid said, why would he put her in the car? The major evidence against him was his blood in her car, placed in very strange places. And, the vial of his blood they used for his DNA was tampered with? C'mon Manitowoc or whatever your name is. The magically appearing keys, the same people who framed him up the first time, who were told NOT TO INVESTIGATE THIS ONE, were the ones who found the evidence? It just doesn't make sense. His defense lawyer was giving evidence to the prosecution?!?!

& how they cannot get a new trial is baffling to me. Avery might be a bad guy, but he did almost 20 years for a crime he didn't do. Now they are doing it to his nephew, and in my opinion, him, again!!!!

One of the morals, if you're poor, your porked.
 
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the kid will never really say what happened. he is too dumb and too scared to really say what happened. he is so inconsistent nothing he ever said should be used, and he is not competent enough to stand trial. if the manitowoc police set him up, they did it just barely good enough
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Doesn't take much to set someone up with a learning disability, and you're right he isn't competent enough to stand trial which should prove he wasn't competent enough to be interviewed alone.
 
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Stumpy420 said:
so we have been watching making a murderer. the one thing I don't get is why would the 16 year old nephew be saying he did it if he didn't do it. Brendan knows what happened, whether he is LD or not, he knows what happened. I think Steven Avery did it, but I still have to finish the series or whatever... I think Avery thought that he could get away with it after 18 years of false imprisonment, "no one would expect it from him."

did you all see the stock market fall? fell yesterday and falling 500 points so far today. I don't know how it directly affects me but I know it isn't good when it falls like this.
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You think he did it?! You realize Brendan said what he did cause they made him say it right? Have you watched the interview between Brendan and the officers? They kept leading him to say what they wanted. Kids slow man and he had no idea what was going on.

Cops are taught to get a confession not the truth, plain and simple.

Let's not forget how they interviewed him 2 times with no attorney or his mom present, which being a minor is a big no no. They knew what they were doing.
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Stumpy420 said:
Yeah I seen the interview, but a couple episodes later when they were talking about his defense he wrote is "statement" about what "really happened," with the cops not in the room, just his lawyers investigator, he drew that picture of her tied to the bed, hands were tied with rope, feet were tied with chains. how would he have known that detail, when he didn't have cops planting it in his head at that time? it's just too convenient that he would just make something up like that... I know he is mentally challenged and has no idea what's going on, but what would make him draw that?
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The guy told him exactly what to draw...
And, sorry to say, but the poor kid has the IQ of a gerbil...
He was guessing...
Dick - "What happened to her head?"
him... cut her hair? -no him... punch her? -no
He was guessing what the "correct" answer was... the answer they wanted!
I could have gotten him to admit to running the Bolshevik Gulags...
 
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The guy told him exactly what to draw...
And, sorry to say, but the poor kid has the IQ of a gerbil...
He was guessing...
Dick - "What happened to her head?"
him... cut her hair? -no him... punch her? -no
He was guessing what the "correct" answer was... the answer they wanted!
I could have gotten him to admit to running the Bolshevik Gulags...
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Yep! Here's some new evidence. Where did the rest of those keys run off to.....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/making-murderer-fans-found-piece-230313565.html
 
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It's a phenomenon that occurs with people in authority vs not only an LD person, but young people in general. Did you see the video of his confession yet? If you see it, you'll know it's obviously bs. They fed him the lines, & he said yes or no. Most of the time, his answers were not what they wanted. When he said "yes" but they wanted a "no", they would prompt him & ask him again. To which he would say yes. He just wanted to go home, & having been in that room before myself, they will do anything, to get you to say anything. A girl was raped in McDonalds by a man on the phone pretending to be a cop. The man on the phone got the female Mcdonalds manager to get the girl in the office, take off her clothes. The manager had to get to work, so she called her fiancé in. The man on the phone told the fiance to have her do jumping jacks, & eventually give him a BJ!!! (It's all on video) The Avery kid, they saw coming from a mile away.

When I was in the booth one time they told me I had 180 ecstasy pills (it wasn't, & I knew it wasn't. It was a whole other drug that I had just sold to someone. They told me so many lies you wouldn't believe me if I told you. "They had the lab results that it was Ecstacy, I was going away for 20 years if I didn't give them my dealer, the other people in the car told them who I get it from, & his name was _______, That I had been under surveillance for over a year, they have video etc."

Almost 4 hours of harassing me, with utter bs. It wasn't ecstacy (it was anabolic steroids I had just sold someone) & everyone on my side knew that. They wouldn't rat me out in the first place. None of us knew this "Jersey" dude they wanted us to name. They intimated that they would start framing up my family members. My sister didn't have an arrest record, wouldn't it be a shame if she were to get pulled over & fail a sobriety test. Same with my uncles.

A person who is not smart enough to know what they are doing, will often confess, just to make it stop. At the end of the video, he says he told them what they wanted, so now can he go home?

60 minutes did an episode about the phenomenon, you could probably find it. But long story short, as incredible as that video is, & all the terrible things they did to this girl (who was just accused of stealing something by the way) most people can be influenced to do almost anything. You may not have fallen for it, but others do.

I don't doubt that Avery is a bad guy. I wouldn't doubt it if he had killed someone. But they framed him up once & put him in jail for 18 years!! For a crime that was later proved to be someone else, that they didn't even look into!

The second time around, there is at least too many things out of place....I certainly have reasonable doubts. If he killed her there like the kid said, why would he put her in the car? The major evidence against him was his blood in her car, placed in very strange places. And, the vial of his blood they used for his DNA was tampered with? C'mon Manitowoc or whatever your name is. The magically appearing keys, the same people who framed him up the first time, who were told NOT TO INVESTIGATE THIS ONE, were the ones who found the evidence? It just doesn't make sense. His defense lawyer was giving evidence to the prosecution?!?!

& how they cannot get a new trial is baffling to me. Avery might be a bad guy, but he did almost 20 years for a crime he didn't do. Now they are doing it to his nephew, and in my opinion, him, again!!!!

One of the morals, if you're poor, your porked.
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Steve has 3 new attorneys that took his case and they are working on a new trial.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/09/making-murderer-steven-avery-new-attorneys
 
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I hope he gets whatever passes as a "fair trial" these days....
 
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I hope he gets whatever passes as a "fair trial" these days....
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Let's hope so. Pretty messed up what they consider "fair" these days.

Innocent until proven guilty, yea right more like guilty until proven innocent and if you have no money and get state appointed you might as well just give up. Those fucks will throw you down a river quicker then anyone. If you look at the Avery clan you can clearly see they aren't the brightest people and didn't have much and they knew exactly that. If you have money you can get away with "murder"
 
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In America, we are stressed to the point where, on average, your common public defender has a caseload that gives him about 15 minutes to review your entire case and prep a defense before you see the judge.

thats right.... we're so fucked that we need to add more lawyers in order to have a sufficient number of attorneys to meet caseload standards...

.....that or we need to declassify cannabis altogether and decrease the volume of court cases.

I'd rather have more weed than more lawyers personally...
 
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Ok any bro,s kicking around the LA area . Please call out .
 
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I'm sure everyone is tired of my writing about this... Sorry for that.... Okay so I'm like 99.9% sure the males I told y'all about in the garage pollinated my girls by me walking back and forth between the 2 rooms and also the fact that everytime you open the door to the garage a huge gust of cold air burst thru the doorway and gets sucked right back to my warm/hot grow room..... That being said if I am wrong and this was all from a hermied how would I go about finding the culprit?? Would whichever plant that hermied still have a nanners or multiple nanners sticking out? Is there any other way to tell which plant hermied? If that is what happened...... Please and thank you
 
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So why can't I upload short lil videos from my oh one like I do pics? Am I doing something wrong?
 
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I'm sure everyone is tired of my writing about this... Sorry for that.... Okay so I'm like 99.9% sure the males I told y'all about in the garage pollinated my girls by me walking back and forth between the 2 rooms and also the fact that everytime you open the door to the garage a huge gust of cold air burst thru the doorway and gets sucked right back to my warm/hot grow room..... That being said if I am wrong and this was all from a hermied how would I go about finding the culprit?? Would whichever plant that hermied still have a nanners or multiple nanners sticking out? Is there any other way to tell which plant hermied? If that is what happened...... Please and thank you
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Yea you should be able to find nanners or balls
 
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