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[Pimp T]

@SpitXFire can you go a little more into the flova nova bloom doseages? And what can be expected from a 3x6 tray of 1 week vegged sfv's in 1 gallon bags of coco?

 

[Lazerus00]

@Toaster79 major congrats bro.

@gardnguyahoy pondliner on the floor, as many watts of lights you can fit with room and ac restrictions. Flora nova bloom, tap water, 1 gal growbags, Coco perlite. Cram as many bags as possible, 1 week veg from rooted clone flip and stake. Youll smash it ezpz with quick down time btwn cycles. Ez like soil growth like hydro. Sea of green on steroids without worrying about rez needs. Works well with handwater with wand

in this setup of yours would you be doing a 50/50 coco perlite mix?

 

[CBDEMON]

Congrats on the new addition to your fam @Toaster79 ! thats awesome. Hope all is well and child is happy and healthy!

 

[SpitXFire]

@suomynona how you liking the #43? had my eye on her for awhile, on the cusp of getting her...

@SpitXFire can you go a little more into the flova nova bloom doseages? And what can be expected from a 3x6 tray of 1 week vegged sfv's in 1 gallon bags of coco?

7-8 ml per gallon, bottled lucas 1 part with humates. provided the lighting, just make sure your water isnt too hard. I think you should be easy able to smash 2 and reach 3-4 per tray, staking and quick flip seems necessary with OG's when you cram em, since they get viney. but should out put a good yield vs veg time compared to netting and trellis, since they stretch pretty good.. I'll tag ya in a system similar to one i used to use before I using longer veg times/netting/lower plant counts ( GG4 made me totally switch up my system, my Black domina, didnt veg nearly as fast and not nearly as big, so I used to cram em in like a motherfucka)

in this setup of yours would you be doing a 50/50 coco perlite mix?

I actually use hydroton, i hate dealing with perlite, and perlite dust. But I used to run 50/50 if autofed, closer to 70/30 if hand watered, to retain substrate moisture better

 

[Pimp T]

Cool tag me man I wanna see it @SpitXFire

 

[tobh]

On the note of handwater in a sog with coco: if you can automate it, go that route. Handwatering anything more than a few plants becomes a total pita after a few weeks, especially with multiple feedings.

 

[SpitXFire]

Oh for sure @tobh but I was trying to make it "noob friendly" as possible with the least amount of moving parts.. I personally would never deal with the headache of handwatering multifeed coco after the first run I tried. But it is possible, just get. 1/2 HP sump pump, tote for rez cut hose to length attach wand head. Post stretch after leg shaving, you should be able snake the hose through. I had a shitty time with shorter dense ass broad leafed indica. I made a solemn vow... "never again."

 

[Power OG]

Cookies finished. Chop chop.

 

[SpitXFire]

But with that said, I might be dropping out of the 420 pg contest... I heard from too many heads that I respect about logic... No offense to any of yall here. Serious stand up fellas, if you want @Tnelz I might be able to work something out, outside of the site.. Plus my homie from the mag and I are using my next pollen run and his, to make all of our S1s for JW's donation fund

 

[SpitXFire]

looks killer @Power OG, I think I haven't complimented your pics lately, it is sorely overdue, you crush the forum as hard as anything I've ever seen. Top notch bro

 

[Shamus]

@suomynona how you liking the #43? had my eye on her for awhile, on the cusp of getting her...

I may take a stab at her as well when I start back up again
There's a lot of controversy it seems over that one getting out. I assumed someone leaked a random but similar wifi cut. I've been out of the loop tho
also curious on how she goes.. +1 on the Q

Ps. You still need to send me that addy beans be ripe for the sowin'

 

[Pimp T]

@Power OG and this was with a week veg? Whats your estimated yield?

 

[SpitXFire]

Goddamn @Shamus out of fuckin nowhere homie! Did I not drop ya a pm on the mag? Whoopsie daisy lol I'll pm ya tonight after I get outta here.

Tons of controversy bc someone in jacks crew couldn't keep their dick in their pants lol. Supposedly the real deal is making the rounds, been offered along with kromes 3. Jack is super butthurt bout her getting out

 

[gardnguyahoy]

Cool, thanks for all the suggestions fellas. Looking cross the net what would be good for me. I get the 1k on monday!

I think i needed to hear all that to make me realize... I want to do a 4x4 flood table with rockwool cubes and a 3-4 flood per day system. 1 week veg like spitfire was sayin. Id like to do a resavoir but i have no idea how to feed through a res. Confused? When do i add more ferts?

Im not sure if ebb n flow would be easier then just a flood table. I feel as though i could set it up to flood the table and have it spilling back into the res on an overflow inside the table. The cycle only lasting 15 minutes or so... So id need a specific timer that does smaller intervals. Is that how ebb n flow works?

Im imagining running same strain across the table each time for even canopy.

Im concerned about ph swing. Whatever the fuck that is and how i counteract it.

And im concerned about res temp regulation, i heard its necessary to keep the res a certain temp.

Any insight on these questions fellas?

 

[MGRox]

when your "saying feed through the res"; your speaking about applying nutes rather than the plumbing right?

Guess when I did the flood and drain I bought one of the pH/Temp/EC monitors (hanna), so I could always keep track. Each day I would adjust the EC, via either r/o or adding nutes (mixed with some water). Next I would adjust the pH. Never had to mess with temps. The pH tended to need messed with to a greater degree than the EC I suppose. You could just as easily test with meters too, not required for a monitor.
You can get a mechanical timer down to 15 minutes on some. Cheap digital timers often go to 1 minute; so a timer should be easy. If your doing rockwool though; I cannot suggest a time or interval as I've not dealt much with it.

edit: guess it was Flora nova bloom at the time too.

 

[gardnguyahoy]

when your "saying feed through the res"; your speaking about applying nutes rather than the plumbing right?

Guess when I did the flood and drain I bought one of the pH/Temp/EC monitors (hanna), so I could always keep track. Each day I would adjust the EC, via either r/o or adding nutes (mixed with some water). Next I would adjust the pH. Never had to mess with temps. The pH tended to need messed with to a greater degree than the EC I suppose. You could just as easily test with meters too, not required for a monitor.
You can get a mechanical timer down to 15 minutes on some. Cheap digital timers often go to 1 minute; so a timer should be easy. If your doing rockwool though; I cannot suggest a time or interval as I've not dealt much with it.

edit: guess it was Flora nova bloom at the time too.

I guess im just confused how it works. Say i have a 50 gallon tub of water for a res. Just plain water. So i add my nutes to the res. Is a low e.c. mean its time to add more. Do i just grow off the same nutes the whole time, do i flush and add new water and new nutes now and again? : S

 

[MGRox]

Oh ok.
Well you start with a res at XX EC. Relative to what stage your at and for your strain. Say you want to run an EC of 1.2; you start with your 50 gallon tub full (to running level) of this fresh nutrient mix. Same as if you were intending to feed that to plants. Instead, you pump that through your table and the plants will remove salts and water. As well there is water removed via evaporation. Depending on how much is lost from evap and how much your plant drinks; at the end of 24hrs you may need either water or more nutes. Whatever interval you would like to check at, but once a day is probably fine for EC. For me, I would adjust anytime it varied more than 0.1. I don't suppose you would have to keep it that tight, but if it get's too low; then your plants will begin to mobilize nutes from itself. More or less the intent is to keep the EC (and pH) stable in your res, so that the plants always get that; however whatever works without being a hassle there.

I imagine you'll get differing opinions on when to change the res; though personally I wouldn't go beyond 10-12 days. Some may say a week and some possibly as long as 3. In any case; after XX period of time you need to dump out the res as "waste" and re-start with new solution. So basically keep it all stable for 10 days then change it all out for new; repeat the process. For final flush, if you do that; many just swap out the res with plain water every couple of days until the EC doesn't rise.

 

[gardnguyahoy]

Oh ok.
Well you start with a res at XX EC. Relative to what stage your at and for your strain. Say you want to run an EC of 1.2; you start with your 50 gallon tub full (to running level) of this fresh nutrient mix. Same as if you were intending to feed that to plants. Instead, you pump that through your table and the plants will remove salts and water. As well there is water removed via evaporation. Depending on how much is lost from evap and how much your plant drinks; at the end of 24hrs you may need either water or more nutes. Whatever interval you would like to check at, but once a day is probably fine for EC. For me, I would adjust anytime it varied more than 0.1. I don't suppose you would have to keep it that tight, but if it get's too low; then your plants will begin to mobilize nutes from itself. More or less the intent is to keep the EC (and pH) stable in your res, so that the plants always get that; however whatever works without being a hassle there.

I imagine you'll get differing opinions on when to change the res; though personally I wouldn't go beyond 10-12 days. Some may say a week and some possibly as long as 3. In any case; after XX period of time you need to dump out the res as "waste" and re-start with new solution. So basically keep it all stable for 10 days then change it all out for new; repeat the process. For final flush, if you do that; many just swap out the res with plain water every couple of days until the EC doesn't rise.

Okay that makes sense. So im gonna be using a lot of water. That in and of itself makes me reconsider... Are there hydro setups that use less water then a flood table?

 

[Pimp T]

U used flova nova bloom only and coco before? If so any deficiencies? How was final product? @SpitXFire

 

[gardnguyahoy]

Oh I didnt kno logic was handling the 420 giveaway.

@Tnelz really?