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Here is the article that was in the last treating yourself.
Treating Yourself article on karma genetics
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Treating Yourself
Karma Genetics
I had the pleasure of being introduced to the world of cannabis through my
participation in one of Amsterdam's seed companies. This gave me a unique
insight into Cannabis breeding. To begin with I learnt that it is a long process
wrought with trial and error. To make a stabilised seed that will grow true
each time, could take up to three years. It is a really long process to sift
through different phenotypes as you try to get closer and closer to what you want.
When I started out I did an experiment and I found that it really gave me a unique
insight into the process. I decided to see what it would be like to grow out a small
room of males so using a test chamber i grew out four different males in order to
see how they grew. Firstly what is their structure? Will one look different from the
other? How tall do they grow? Indeed all of my questions were answered. They
were all different and unique and quite special. As we are normally used to growing
from clones and only growing females, it was amazing to see this other side of
the Cannabis plant. I also tried smoking the males just to see what it would be like.
Not so tasty but an interesting end to the experiment.
TY
As a result of my breeding experience I have remained fascinated
by other breeders and the philosophy that they have.
A fellow breeder and friend of mine, Karma from Karma
Genetics, just recently won 3rd prize in the Cannabis Cup
this past year and I thought I would sit down and have a
chat with him about his breeding philosophy. He is also
planning on entering the Treating Yourself cup and hopefully
will also have a booth so you could all meet him. I've
known Karma for about six years now having first met
online and than at several 420 cups, of which he has won 3.
To begin with I was always impressed with Karma's bud.
Whenever he would show up at a cup it would be like
Christmas, always many different types of flavours and
always finished to perfection. He's a Dutch breeder but
comes from the south of the Netherlands. This also meant
that he had access to different types of genetics which were
not common in Amsterdam. One of the early plants that he
started working with was something called Happy Brother.
This is a really potent Indica, that grows short and bushy. It
is a really powerful stone, a deeply sedating strain, definitely
a must for those seeking pain relief. From the Happy
Brother to his cup winning White OG, Karma stands on the
forefront of modern breeding.
For me a modern breeder is someone who combined with
his passion has a certain artistic flair for creating strains. At
the moment there are two breeders like this Karma is one
and Subcool is another. They are sort of the maverick's,
breeders who work within their own unique styles creating
phenomenal and unique new strains.
Karma being a connoisseur smoker is interested in many different
aspects that the plant has to offer. He is also keenly
aware of the plant's health benefits working closely with a
small groups of dutch medical patients who often test out
his finished fruit.
Karma began breeding in 1999 and turned to breeding in
order to diversify the clones he was limited to. He said, "not
many people are used to growing from seeds in holland so
after I was gifted a pack I was hit by the need to further that
adventure. Once I saw how much diversity there was
amongst just the phenotypes of a single pack I was hooked.
It made me want to explore more, from that point on I started
to build up my seed collection and started growing out a
bunch of new things. This inspired me to start picking out
the best of what I was growing and to start combining them,
sculpting new strains as a result. It was a great process and
had the pleasure of being introduced to the world of cannabis through my
participation in one of Amsterdam's seed companies. This gave me a unique
insight into Cannabis breeding. To begin with I learnt that it is a long process
wrought with trial and error. To make a stabilised seed that will grow true
each time, could take up to three years. It is a really long process to sift
through different phenotypes as you try to get closer and closer to what you want.
When I started out I did an experiment and I found that it really gave me a unique
insight into the process. I decided to see what it would be like to grow out a small
room of males so using a test chamber i grew out four different males in order to
see how they grew. Firstly what is their structure? Will one look different from the
other? How tall do they grow? Indeed all of my questions were answered. They
were all different and unique and quite special. As we are normally used to growing
from clones and only growing females, it was amazing to see this other side of
the Cannabis plant. I also tried smoking the males just to see what it would be like.
Not so tasty but an interesting end to the experiment.
TY SPOTLIGHT
Intnow I'm happy to offer that work to other people to try."
I wanted to know what he looks for when he makes a selection.
His approach is governed first by smell and flavour. He said that
although yield and structure are important for him. If it doesn't
taste and smell divine than he's largely not interested, there is
always the exception but for him taste is really important. His
preference does lie in the Indica dominant world but he also likes
his Sativa's. This was evident in his other cup entry this year, The
Dominator, which was a unique haze due to it's candy like flavour.
I was also curious about mediums as when I was making seeds we
solely used soil and organic nuts, Karma does the same but I often
wondered what the differences were when seeds where made
hydroponically. According to Karma's research he has found that
seeds made hydroponically tend to have a smaller shelf life. Also
he said, "I grow my weed in soil and organically why would I
change my system in order to make seeds, which are the building
blocks from which I grow."
When asked about the medical scene, Karma had this to say,"it's
strange that 20 years ago the policy in holland led to many
Americans coming over and bringing these great genetics. It really
paved the way for the Dutch scene to explode, but now when
more and more research needs to be done Holland is actually shifting
away from the now more liberal US. In Holland it is still hard
to get a prescription and your only choice is the Cannabis sold in
pharmacies or the really expensive coffee shop weed. It is important
for Holland to implement a system that also allows patients
to grow there own medicine alongside the government grown
buds.
I asked Karma what he felt about all of the Internet boards out
there devoted to Cannabis as that was how we came together. I
was curious what he thought about it's role in bringing people
together and sharing genetics. His belief was that for Cannabis
people the internet makes the world smaller, it gives things a global
context. He also feels that it really sped things up with regards
to spreading new genetics and breeding. Now you could have people
from all over the world growing and testing yourself out. If
they find a good phenotype you can usually ask for it back and
they'll send it to you. It has also allowed for us to send European
strains over and to have our North American friends
reciprocate by sending us stuff. As far as his company
Karma Genetics the Internet really made things go
quick, as he established himself as part of this new breed
of seed company, that made use of the internet to interact
with growers while spreading new genetics.
One thing that Karma was pretty adamant about was
the destruction feminization has on the gene pool. I
have to say based on countless stories i've heard and
research i've done I have to agree with Karma and do
not see feminization as a good thing. His feeling is that
it allows for inferior genetics to be widely spread. There
are few breeders out there really taking their time to
breed out any hermaphroditic tendencies in their female
seeds.
As far as all of these new companies springing up in
Spain and other countries around the world Karma feels
that breeding involves time and patience, you cannot
rush things. New companies that suddenly have all of
these new crosses are simply making fast hybrids that
largely go untested. Karma says this is another reason
why the Internet is so powerful as it acts as a sort of
proving ground for new genetics. The people will
always speak up Karma says.
Karma is currently working on a line of Kushes that
range from his new cup winning White OG to the
Lucifer OG, which is an HA OG cut crossed with an
SFV male. Another one of his new ones is the deadly
TK, or Triple Kush, this is a blend of Sour Diesel and
SFV OG. At the moment his seeds are available online
By Harry Resin. Treatingyourself magazine
Karma Genetics
I had the pleasure of being introduced to the world of cannabis through my
participation in one of Amsterdam's seed companies. This gave me a unique
insight into Cannabis breeding. To begin with I learnt that it is a long process
wrought with trial and error. To make a stabilised seed that will grow true
each time, could take up to three years. It is a really long process to sift
through different phenotypes as you try to get closer and closer to what you want.
When I started out I did an experiment and I found that it really gave me a unique
insight into the process. I decided to see what it would be like to grow out a small
room of males so using a test chamber i grew out four different males in order to
see how they grew. Firstly what is their structure? Will one look different from the
other? How tall do they grow? Indeed all of my questions were answered. They
were all different and unique and quite special. As we are normally used to growing
from clones and only growing females, it was amazing to see this other side of
the Cannabis plant. I also tried smoking the males just to see what it would be like.
Not so tasty but an interesting end to the experiment.
TY
As a result of my breeding experience I have remained fascinated
by other breeders and the philosophy that they have.
A fellow breeder and friend of mine, Karma from Karma
Genetics, just recently won 3rd prize in the Cannabis Cup
this past year and I thought I would sit down and have a
chat with him about his breeding philosophy. He is also
planning on entering the Treating Yourself cup and hopefully
will also have a booth so you could all meet him. I've
known Karma for about six years now having first met
online and than at several 420 cups, of which he has won 3.
To begin with I was always impressed with Karma's bud.
Whenever he would show up at a cup it would be like
Christmas, always many different types of flavours and
always finished to perfection. He's a Dutch breeder but
comes from the south of the Netherlands. This also meant
that he had access to different types of genetics which were
not common in Amsterdam. One of the early plants that he
started working with was something called Happy Brother.
This is a really potent Indica, that grows short and bushy. It
is a really powerful stone, a deeply sedating strain, definitely
a must for those seeking pain relief. From the Happy
Brother to his cup winning White OG, Karma stands on the
forefront of modern breeding.
For me a modern breeder is someone who combined with
his passion has a certain artistic flair for creating strains. At
the moment there are two breeders like this Karma is one
and Subcool is another. They are sort of the maverick's,
breeders who work within their own unique styles creating
phenomenal and unique new strains.
Karma being a connoisseur smoker is interested in many different
aspects that the plant has to offer. He is also keenly
aware of the plant's health benefits working closely with a
small groups of dutch medical patients who often test out
his finished fruit.
Karma began breeding in 1999 and turned to breeding in
order to diversify the clones he was limited to. He said, "not
many people are used to growing from seeds in holland so
after I was gifted a pack I was hit by the need to further that
adventure. Once I saw how much diversity there was
amongst just the phenotypes of a single pack I was hooked.
It made me want to explore more, from that point on I started
to build up my seed collection and started growing out a
bunch of new things. This inspired me to start picking out
the best of what I was growing and to start combining them,
sculpting new strains as a result. It was a great process and
had the pleasure of being introduced to the world of cannabis through my
participation in one of Amsterdam's seed companies. This gave me a unique
insight into Cannabis breeding. To begin with I learnt that it is a long process
wrought with trial and error. To make a stabilised seed that will grow true
each time, could take up to three years. It is a really long process to sift
through different phenotypes as you try to get closer and closer to what you want.
When I started out I did an experiment and I found that it really gave me a unique
insight into the process. I decided to see what it would be like to grow out a small
room of males so using a test chamber i grew out four different males in order to
see how they grew. Firstly what is their structure? Will one look different from the
other? How tall do they grow? Indeed all of my questions were answered. They
were all different and unique and quite special. As we are normally used to growing
from clones and only growing females, it was amazing to see this other side of
the Cannabis plant. I also tried smoking the males just to see what it would be like.
Not so tasty but an interesting end to the experiment.
TY SPOTLIGHT
Intnow I'm happy to offer that work to other people to try."
I wanted to know what he looks for when he makes a selection.
His approach is governed first by smell and flavour. He said that
although yield and structure are important for him. If it doesn't
taste and smell divine than he's largely not interested, there is
always the exception but for him taste is really important. His
preference does lie in the Indica dominant world but he also likes
his Sativa's. This was evident in his other cup entry this year, The
Dominator, which was a unique haze due to it's candy like flavour.
I was also curious about mediums as when I was making seeds we
solely used soil and organic nuts, Karma does the same but I often
wondered what the differences were when seeds where made
hydroponically. According to Karma's research he has found that
seeds made hydroponically tend to have a smaller shelf life. Also
he said, "I grow my weed in soil and organically why would I
change my system in order to make seeds, which are the building
blocks from which I grow."
When asked about the medical scene, Karma had this to say,"it's
strange that 20 years ago the policy in holland led to many
Americans coming over and bringing these great genetics. It really
paved the way for the Dutch scene to explode, but now when
more and more research needs to be done Holland is actually shifting
away from the now more liberal US. In Holland it is still hard
to get a prescription and your only choice is the Cannabis sold in
pharmacies or the really expensive coffee shop weed. It is important
for Holland to implement a system that also allows patients
to grow there own medicine alongside the government grown
buds.
I asked Karma what he felt about all of the Internet boards out
there devoted to Cannabis as that was how we came together. I
was curious what he thought about it's role in bringing people
together and sharing genetics. His belief was that for Cannabis
people the internet makes the world smaller, it gives things a global
context. He also feels that it really sped things up with regards
to spreading new genetics and breeding. Now you could have people
from all over the world growing and testing yourself out. If
they find a good phenotype you can usually ask for it back and
they'll send it to you. It has also allowed for us to send European
strains over and to have our North American friends
reciprocate by sending us stuff. As far as his company
Karma Genetics the Internet really made things go
quick, as he established himself as part of this new breed
of seed company, that made use of the internet to interact
with growers while spreading new genetics.
One thing that Karma was pretty adamant about was
the destruction feminization has on the gene pool. I
have to say based on countless stories i've heard and
research i've done I have to agree with Karma and do
not see feminization as a good thing. His feeling is that
it allows for inferior genetics to be widely spread. There
are few breeders out there really taking their time to
breed out any hermaphroditic tendencies in their female
seeds.
As far as all of these new companies springing up in
Spain and other countries around the world Karma feels
that breeding involves time and patience, you cannot
rush things. New companies that suddenly have all of
these new crosses are simply making fast hybrids that
largely go untested. Karma says this is another reason
why the Internet is so powerful as it acts as a sort of
proving ground for new genetics. The people will
always speak up Karma says.
Karma is currently working on a line of Kushes that
range from his new cup winning White OG to the
Lucifer OG, which is an HA OG cut crossed with an
SFV male. Another one of his new ones is the deadly
TK, or Triple Kush, this is a blend of Sour Diesel and
SFV OG. At the moment his seeds are available online
By Harry Resin. Treatingyourself magazine
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Badass & great article Karma. Thanks for sharing. Congrats man. I agree with all!
Badass & great article Karma. Thanks for sharing. Congrats man. I agree with all!
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Congrats bro ..you da man
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props where due
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Right on Brother Karma! It was GREAT hanging with you on 420 this year Bro! Harry was spot on when he said it's like Christmas when your around Bro, because you had the Fuckin best weed in Amsterdam! It was literally the 12 days of Xmas!!
Cheers on the Fine article!
Mosca
Cheers on the Fine article!
Mosca
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Sweet
Congratulations, and thanks for your integrity. I've got several packs of your HB looking for an awesome pheno
mal
Congratulations, and thanks for your integrity. I've got several packs of your HB looking for an awesome pheno
mal
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its a bit wierd reading it myself, feels a bit funny. gues i am not used to being talked about.
But i realy love it, i think its a pretty good written piece, and he has put in my answers to his questions in pretty wel.
But i realy love it, i think its a pretty good written piece, and he has put in my answers to his questions in pretty wel.
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Man that is awesome! Hopefully I'll be able to get some of your beans in the auction.
ProdigyGrower
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I thought triplel kush was wifi#6 x svf bx2 not sour d x sfv ??? Is the article wrong ??? Either way congrats brutha finally getting the recognition you deserve!
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Great article Karma, congratulations on the recognition brother.
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THE article is wrong. And you are right.:banana1sv6:
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Congrats Karma!!
motherlode
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nice write up Karma - props brother!
ProdigyGrower
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Kool I thought so I knew I read it plenty of times. I lost enough actions trying to win the triple kush man I really wanted that in my garden looks like I won't be getting that one seeing as there isn't any more available ;^( any way congrats bro you deff deserve it!!! I can't wIte for the new drop the white v 2.0 is gonna be EPIC for sure !!
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