Trouble with keepin Temps in check

Capfan · Jul 11, 2013

Hey guys, temps with a 1/4 Chiller around 70-72, i use tea and add about 10 gallons to 100-120 Gallons

i did check the temps in the room and it seems to be about 73 -

I run c02 and put my thermostat at 85, i took it down to 80, and that helped bring water temps down ..

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I currently have my chiller running in the epicenter recycling on its own pump - my question is, (i am buying the plumbing to do this today )

if i add the chiller to the magdrive pump, all water will be forced to go through the chiller, sometimes i feel the pump that is just recyling isnt getting it all ...

In my head? =P

the ultimate solution would be to up my chillers, and i will in the next round...Just lookin for a quick fix in the middle of a run ;)

GeneticFreak · Jul 12, 2013

Are your buckets insulated? If not that will probably get you where you wanna be. Insulate the tops and the sides. Also run the chiller using the mag drive through the chiller and into the epi.

Texas Kid · Jul 12, 2013

You want to come off your mag drive pump, thru the chiller and then into your epicenter..that way the total volume of the water goes thru the chiller all the time..

Capfan · Jul 20, 2013

Just an update fella's, i scrapped the recycling pump that was on the chiller, Only pump is the mag drive > Chiller > Epi ....Got my temps down to 68 and stable

Texas Kid · Jul 20, 2013

Nice....I run mine at 66 degrees with lights on

ttystikk · Jul 20, 2013

I've found that the temps of my 5 gallon RDWC systems actually varies during the day cycle. Low 60s at lights on, a gradual warm-up to 70 or so at lights off, cool and repeat. Plants, water, environment all seem happy...

GeneticFreak · Jul 21, 2013

So do you have your buckets insulated? Also you say your waters at 68degrees. Is that what your chillers set at? The reason I'm asking is that insulating your buckets will make your chiller run far more efficient. Making it possible to keep your settings on your chiller to be within a few degrees of your actual water temp. For instance if your holding 68 with lights On and your chillers set at 60. You may have really cold water come lights out and your losing efficientcy. Which means losing money.

GeneticFreak · Jul 21, 2013

I ran 1/4 hp with 140 gallons with insulated buckets and kept temps within 4 degrees. So there's hope. I just saw that your mid run. Good to hear you see your temps down.

Capfan · Jul 21, 2013

Chiller at 66, temps 68, 26 / 41 are insulated.. i know i know, im slackin!

Capfan · Jul 21, 2013

I have a thread below of the room, quite the battle, but im sure ive got ahold!

ttystikk · Jul 21, 2013

GeneticFreak said:
So do you have your buckets insulated? Also you say your waters at 68degrees. Is that what your chillers set at? The reason I'm asking is that insulating your buckets will make your chiller run far more efficient. Making it possible to keep your settings on your chiller to be within a few degrees of your actual water temp. For instance if your holding 68 with lights On and your chillers set at 60. You may have really cold water come lights out and your losing efficientcy. Which means losing money.

Why is a change in water temps a bad thing? I believe I'm actually seeing things work better than if I tried to hold exactly one temp at all times. Soil warms during the day, speeding metabolism, and clogs at night, inhibiting certain pests. Why not in my RDWC?

To those who suggest insulating buckets, I agree. This amounts to reducing the load the chiller sees and directly leads to efficiency gains.

GeneticFreak · Jul 21, 2013

Well in my example I wasn't very extreme. But if you set your chiller at 40 F to reach 68. I would imagine it might not be the best thing for your plants. I don't have data to back this up I'm only speculating. I personally like to keep things from drastically swinging period. Water temps environment temps I think should be within reason.

babyhughie586 · Jul 21, 2013

My water temp has been as high as 73 in veg.. With Caps bennies and 70-73 degree water they have been growing better with the high temps and bennies than with 68 and sterile... No Lie, check my thread if u dont believe me...

babyhughie586 · Jul 21, 2013

WHOOOAAAAA WAIT A MINUTE!!! How much Tea are you adding to your system??? 10gallons of tea for 100gallons of water!!???!! That is WAAAAY to much... you should only be giving them 1gallon of tea for every 50 gallons of water.. So if u have 120gallons of water you should only be adding 3 gallons of tea MAX....

Edit... cap recomends 1 cup of tea for every 5 gallons of water, so if you have 120 gallons that would be 1.5 gallons...

Capfan · Jul 21, 2013

You sure its to much ? its just a few handsfuls of EWC, about half a tablespoon of ZHO and 120 ML aqual shield, brewed for 2 days.

babyhughie586 · Jul 21, 2013

ohhh i thought you were using Capulators Bennies... im not sure about that stuff.. I know cap reccomends MUCH less though

Capfan · Jul 21, 2013

Just to make life easy!

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Capfan · Jul 21, 2013

GeneticFreak said:
Well in my example I wasn't very extreme. But if you set your chiller at 40 F to reach 68.

I dont think you would have to put your set point so low, up the chiller?

ttystikk · Jul 21, 2013

GeneticFreak said:
Well in my example I wasn't very extreme. But if you set your chiller at 40 F to reach 68. I would imagine it might not be the best thing for your plants. I don't have data to back this up I'm only speculating. I personally like to keep things from drastically swinging period. Water temps environment temps I think should be within reason.

It would take a big chiller to effect such a drastic temperature change in an RDWC holding 40 gallons plus of water. That's a lot of heat to move. The main point about big swings is well taken, however.

And yet, I believe small, even daily variations can have benefits. That's why I let my pH swing a bit instead of locking it in place.

ttystikk · Jul 21, 2013

babyhughie586 said:
ohhh i thought you were using Capulators Bennies... im not sure about that stuff.. I know cap reccomends MUCH less though

Cap's goodness is much more concentrated. Getting what you pay for and stuff...

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