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Yeah no doubt. I like your style DougsNugs we have some Epaps over one of our under currents. Tell me more about the cages you have in there. They look to me like the Current Culture cages maybe tweaked a little. Be careful with the sugars in the tea.Nice start! Although I find myself wondering about using a 12' rail to move lights. I'm afraid that it won't give the results you're after.
Don't know a thang about UC, but you put up a good post there, deserve some bumpage for the UC cats to see & give opinions. :)
Cali O Big huge flowers nice buzz, Tora Bora( not a heavy yielder, keep that for your private stash that was my shit)Hey guys,
Just starting a thread on our new 10 site Under Current setup. Using Heavy 16 A+B, Prime + Enhancer, Finish, roots accelerator, canna rhizo + zyme, cal mag plus, also just starting using an Earth worm casting and Ancient Forest compost tea with mycos bacteria and hi brix molasses
Foliar feeding once a week with Heavy 16 foliar and Kelp
We're lighting everything with 4 Gavita 600's with a light mover 5.0 on a 12 foot rail
1/4hp Chiller exchanging the epicenter. also replaced all the airstones with single XL micropores
In about a week we will drain the system as low as we can with a pump and then add back pure RO water PH'ed to 5.5 until about an inch or two under the net pots and let them be for a day to flush. Next day we'll add the Heavy 16 bloom A+B, Prime + Enhancer, Finish, and Fire, along with a fresh dose of compost tea.
The strains we're running are Cannatonic, White Fire OG, Tora Bora, MK Ultra, and Cali Orange.
Looking into a PH down doser for the epicenter.. We're using a Nutradip tripmeter at the moment, would that work with a really small pond pump of some kind?
Any thoughts, advice, anything is welcome!
Peace
Here's a few pics so far, we're at day 2 of 12/12 flowering
Evening Amber, I was told you should only use teas for deficiencies/problems you might come across when using UC, as apposed to using it as a normal cousre of nutrient regiment.Quick Q&A response to UC User Regarding Inoculants in Solution
Q-Are organics recommended?
A-Typically it’s the most soluble, mineral based nutes that jive best in water culture. We would recommend using the organics as either a foliar or in small amounts applied directly to the root crown.
Q-I am assuming humic acid, kelp, and the likes, are simply too messy for the cleanliness required in this high-performance system.
A-That’s the issue, aside from the pH issues and other side effects adding these less stable ions into solution can cause.
Q-Do selective inoculants, such as Great White or SOS (http://www.superorganicstimulator.com), have a place in the UC system?
A-Yes, but it’s bacterial products that will tend to do better as they are naturally adapted to colonizing in water. Having said this, fungal inocs are also useful but are best served when introduced to the root crown so rhizoshere colonization can occur.
Q-The reason why I ask is because of the fundamental idea to “run it clean”, which in most cases means “as sterile as possible”.
A-Remember clean doesn’t only mean sterile. You can run inocs and teas but they need to be used in homeopathic doses so as to avoid the side effects of biofilms in the system and on the root zone. It’s this biofilm that can inhibit liquid and gas exchange in the root zone slowing plant metabolism and lending to aenerobic conditions.
Q-Great White has Trichoderma, which keep those roots clean, and Streptomyces to prevent fungal-related infecions. But the problem is the bio residue these organisms produce as they biosynthetize eiher the glycine carrier or fulvic acid. Then there is the 10-14 day water aging period for inoculants, which might not suit more frequent reservoir changes in a high-performance system. SOS, on the other hand, has always run clean in all of the tests done at Garden Indoors
A-Trichoderma and streptomyces are both very over bearing microbes. Either can be used but it’s keeping them from over populating that is the dance. Remember, water culture is hydroponics and not a tea brewer. Tea brewinig is purposely over populating a solution to be diseminated vs. hydroponic solutions which are looking to provide a stable environment for mineral and water assimilation.And agreed, when using teas in heavier doses it does necessiate more nute change out. If SOS is working for you I’d recommend it as a compliment to your nute regime in the UC, but consider a lower dose than recommended.
Q-What would you recommend as far as the inoculant issue is concerned?
A-I would recommend a worm casting tea. (Add two cups to five gallons of water, aerate or stir, strain and then use that liquid at approx 10 mils per gallon in your system) Steeped or aerated worm casting or vermicompost has proven to be the most effective means of providing ecological balance in a water culture setting. The unique nature of red worms intestinal tract makes the likelyhood of disease organisms almost impossible.Closing thought: Avoid adding any input with sugars and carbs into your water culture system, AACT or otherwise. Most out of the bottle/can/tub/bucket inocs have plenty included as a food source for the bacteria so be thoughtful when using.
I second that question. Been avoiding using Liquid Karma (humic) scared to put anything dark into the UC.Also does anyone run fulvic in their UC?
I have heard that also but I gotta tell ya we use it more ofter than not. We dont normally put teas in the system unless there is a root problem. What we do normally is just crown feed with the tea. In theory keeping it out of our brew and just in the top of the root zone.Evening Amber, I was told you should only use teas for deficiencies/problems you might come across when using UC, as apposed to using it as a normal cousre of nutrient regiment.
Any words of advice would be awesome on that.
How often and amount? Just been messing with the UC for a minute. What about film build up.Used teas in Promix.I have heard that also but I gotta tell ya we use it more ofter than not. We dont normally put teas in the system unless there is a root problem. What we do normally is just crown feed with the tea. In theory keeping it out of our brew and just in the top of the root zone.
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