Using CO2 tabs. Is it ok to fart inside the tent?

[Toscano]

Hi everyone!

Well... I guess my real question is... do these CO2 slow release tabs that you put inside a bowl of water really work?

I understand the logic of not being that much CO2 inside a grow tent, it's a kind of enclosed space.

On the other hand, if I have airflow inside the tent (I have a in-fan and an exhaust fan to control humidity and temperature), isn't the point moot?

As soon as I place these tabs in water, won't the evaporated CO2 fly away quickly?

I mean... I'm doing it, because someone convinced me to do it... just not sure if it's worth it.
Isn't CO2 an abundant thing in the air, even in enclosed spaces?

Thanks!

 

[Zill]

Although atmospheric CO2 is less than 0.04% I doubt you would be able to increase the cCO2 with a couple of those tabs. Although captive in a tent maybe. But, those studies have been done and did not demonstrate a huge increase in bio mass.

 

[Toscano]

Although atmospheric CO2 is less than 0.04% I doubt you would be able to increase the cCO2 with a couple of those tabs. Although captive in a tent maybe. But, those studies have been done and did not demonstrate a huge increase in bio mass.

That's kind of what I was figuring...
Thanks!

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

Yeah but let’s get to the down and dirty….what about farting in the tent?

 

[Toscano]

Yeah but let’s get to the down and dirty….what about farting in the tent?

I think as long as we don't try and light the fart inside the tent, we'll be in the clear!

But... well... methane is about 20 twenty times more powerful than CO2 when it comes to trapping heat, but on the other hand it's approximately three times lighter than CO2.

So, even if we fart inside the tent, we'll probably be OK, providing the fans are running.

But I think this matter should be further discussed here!

 

[Zill]

Question for you tenters….

After a crop is harvested do you make it a point, a required step, to wipe down all interior surfaces with a disinfectant like bleach, hypochlorite? Aside from sweeping or wet mop, do you do any sanitization prior to bringing in the next crop?

Zill.

 

[Toscano]

Question for you tenters….

After a crop is harvested do you make it a point, a required step, to wipe down all interior surfaces with a disinfectant like bleach, hypochlorite? Aside from sweeping or wet mop, do you do any sanitization prior to bringing in the next crop?

Zill.

I'm not the right one to advice on that, as I'm in the middle of my first indoors grow (inside a tent).

But I do plan on spraying the insides of the tent with some isopropyl alcohol and scrub it lightly with some microfiber rags, just like I did before starting this grow.

 

[Zill]

Thanks T.

I worked for years supporting/developing vaccine fill finish clean rooms. Casually perusing this forum, I see loads of threads talking about plant disease. The causative agents are the typical fungal criminals common to this indoors tent captive environment. Not unique pathogens, typical. And to make matters worse fungi produce spores. I’m talking Avogadro’s number of spores. Very, very difficult to clean.

I was thinking that maybe a sticky might help with understanding the value of regular tent sanitizing between crops. It would of course not be anything anywhere near what they do in the Biopharmaceutical industry but adopting a practice might help manage disease better and reduce the spore load. Alcohol won’t touch the spores but it’s good housekeeping and that never hurts.

 

[Toscano]

Thanks T.

I worked for years supporting/developing vaccine fill finish clean rooms. Casually perusing this forum, I see loads of threads talking about plant disease. The causative agents are the typical fungal criminals common to this indoors tent captive environment. Not unique pathogens, typical. And to make matters worse fungi produce spores. I’m talking Avogadro’s number of spores. Very, very difficult to clean.

I was thinking that maybe a sticky might help with understanding the value of regular tent sanitizing between crops. It would of course not be anything anywhere near what they do in the Biopharmaceutical industry but adopting a practice might help manage disease better and reduce the spore load. Alcohol won’t touch the spores but it’s good housekeeping and that never hurts.

It's handy that you have that kind of knowledge.
I'm sure a good cleaning practice would be a plus as one of those sticky posts you mentioned.
I thought just scrubbing with alcohol and rags would do the trick.

 

[hawkman]

Nice product but it's a "money grabber" be nice to see some stats on this product add this to CO2 bags (Co2 Exhale, GreenPads, ect) there was a test with on Co2 product and they showed (podcast) were a 2by2 tent held a constant 1500ppm (believe the product was TNT ? something)(will get name of) Let face it bottle co2 is the best but very expensive and one must have a ait-tight toom if you have that forget the co2 and go PVD (jungle boys use this method)(PPD ?)

 

[elusiveshame]

Yeah but let’s get to the down and dirty….what about farting in the tent?

As long as it’s solely air it should be fine. You don’t wanna attract other pests to your grow lab

 

[ritoMox]

I see loads of threads talking about plant disease. The causative agents are the typical fungal criminals common to this indoors tent captive environment.

Bound to happen given years of essentially sterile indoor cultivation destroying the plants immune system due to the lack of bugs, etc., that the plants have to defend against and build an immunity to in outdoor environments. The bright side is that there is a huge business opportunity for manufacturers of antifungal's, etc., to combat those diseases, etc., that domesticated indoor cannabis is becoming more and more susceptible to.

 

[Zill]

Plants don't have quite the elaborate circulating immune system like animals. A plants immune system mostly consists of thickening cell walls, walling off a lesion and sacrificing the tissue. Another defense is the formation of outgrowths from the live tissue surrounding xylem elements. The outgrowths intrude into the lumen of the xylem attempting to block the spread of the pathogen. Unfortunately, the tyloses blocking the xylem also contribute to the demise of the plant. The main reason we lost all our Elm tree the fungus.

Heard that Ritto! But if you got some experience/knowledge they can't hurt you.

There are really effective sporicidal disinfectants. Need to switch between the disinfectants. No biggie. If I was an indoor guy, I would disinfect after each planting. all those fabric covers, outlet hangings, floor would get wiped down. Like I said nothing nutso but spores will build up over time.

Zill.

 

[ritoMox]

Heard that Ritto! But if you got some experience/knowledge they can't hurt you.

Shhh! Don't say that too loud, it's bad for business!

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Question for you tenters….

After a crop is harvested do you make it a point, a required step, to wipe down all interior surfaces with a disinfectant like bleach, hypochlorite? Aside from sweeping or wet mop, do you do any sanitization prior to bringing in the next crop?

Zill.

We do not sterilize the tent but we do wipe it down.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Thanks T.

I worked for years supporting/developing vaccine fill finish clean rooms. Casually perusing this forum, I see loads of threads talking about plant disease. The causative agents are the typical fungal criminals common to this indoors tent captive environment. Not unique pathogens, typical. And to make matters worse fungi produce spores. I’m talking Avogadro’s number of spores. Very, very difficult to clean.

I was thinking that maybe a sticky might help with understanding the value of regular tent sanitizing between crops. It would of course not be anything anywhere near what they do in the Biopharmaceutical industry but adopting a practice might help manage disease better and reduce the spore load. Alcohol won’t touch the spores but it’s good housekeeping and that never hurts.

There is not much actual disease discussed here. Mostly what you see is deficiencies caused by improper feeding or watering. Outdoor grows do get some mold on occasion but for the most part, the growers here keep their tents clean. The worst problem we see here is bugs.

 

[JerzeyMike]

I just recently had to break the tents back out, I was in a basement where I didn’t really need them. They sat since last May, before using them again, we sprayed them with household cleaner, then set the lights and fans and let it run for 24 before putting plants in. Not sterile, but a decent cleaning. Not sure if it helped or not, but probably didnt hurt anything.

 

[Zill]

It’s a good practice CN
Unless you dissembled the tent and autoclaved the thing one can never sterilize. But by wiping down like you say you can reduce the spore loads to manageable levels. Even in clean rooms there were viable and no viable ranges based on the air quality.

Zill.

 

[AnimalHouse]

Question for you tenters….

After a crop is harvested do you make it a point, a required step, to wipe down all interior surfaces with a disinfectant like bleach, hypochlorite? Aside from sweeping or wet mop, do you do any sanitization prior to bringing in the next crop?

Zill.

I use an orange oil and water mixture. 2oz of orange oil and the rest of a quart size spray bottle with water. It's a cleaner, degreaser, and excellent insecticide. After it's clean I use an ozone generator for a day. I don't enter the room while the gen is on and before entering I hit the exhaust using Alexa to control that outlet. Nothing alive will survive the ozone if the orange oil didn't kill it first.
When I'm done I could do surgery in there it's so sterile.

 

[Ganjadad]

Question for you tenters….

After a crop is harvested do you make it a point, a required step, to wipe down all interior surfaces with a disinfectant like bleach, hypochlorite? Aside from sweeping or wet mop, do you do any sanitization prior to bringing in the next crop?

Zill.

I always sterilize after every change of the cycle by wiping everything down with white vinegar