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The Following is "All" that needs to be Said... A "True" 1%'er That Dems. criticize daily... If the Guy Don't Want you to Drink A "Large Coke" what do you think He has to say about A "Fat Joint"Growing was never big on the east coast or accepted as it is on the west or Co. but the mayor of a town near me just allowed a disp to open after the last one balked on it and you can bet he will get my ass to the polls when he is up for a second term and you can bet I will vote against Christie when he try's to become what ever he is aspiring to be. He is currently putting out commercials for himself granted his is not currently running for anything and his term is almost over but legalization was passed by corzine in 2010 the last day of his term and thrown in christie lap and he dragged it out until he was re-elected almost 4 years now and only the second disp is about to open .... wonder how many people suffered needlessly because of his political agenda.......
If the "Examples" I posted are A Sample of "Good Regulation" Pardon Me Seamaiden but I want No Part of It...Oh, how quickly we forget our history. I do want regulation, good regulation. Not this self-oversight bullshit. Right now, if there were zero oversight more people would be dead and no one would know for sure how or even why. We sure love to bag on the bureaucratic bullshit, until we demand some answers.
If the "Examples" I posted are A Sample of "Good Regulation" Pardon Me Seamaiden but I want No Part of It...
Zero Regulation... You Crack Me Up. Regulations (Fed) in Moderation... Not Dictatorship. Ca is "Broke" and it is Due to Government not Corporation... The Corporation and Businesses Have Left. To Expensive ;)SoCal, we've already lived an era of zero regulation. What did the state of California get for it? Countryside that is still too toxic to walk around, let alone live upon. Oh yeah, I really wanna live like that. If there were no regulation at all of FF going on, then no one would know where the fuck that salmonella came from in the first place. You're saying you really want it that way? Because I sure in hell do not.
See, the Libertarian ideal should rule--that your freedom stops where mine begins--but corporations have gotten in the way of that idea, what people should be MORE pissed off about IMO is the fact that our right to legal redress, i.e. our ability to sue in court, is now being impinged upon. That impinges upon my own Libertarian ideal.
Edit* I have a really fun little story to tell about how state and federal regulation helped me get a porta-shitter off our property, one that was literally overflowing with shit and garbage. If'n anyone's interested, that is.
See, the Libertarian ideal should rule--that your freedom stops where mine begins--but corporations have gotten in the way of that idea, what people should be MORE pissed off about IMO is the fact that our right to legal redress, i.e. our ability to sue in court, is now being impinged upon. That impinges upon my own Libertarian ideal.
There's a bit of a flaw in this logic though. I don't mean that in a bad way I'm just saying that the issue goes a bit deeper than you're putting it. Right?
So let's take your ideal: your freedom stops where mine begins.
So people are free to form groups, and indeed corporations. That's part of their freedom. When they have these large groups their relationship with the government fundamentally changes. Because there is no law preventing it they engage in their own version of "legal redress" shall we call it--by lobbying congress.
So there is this spectrum from employee, to entrepreneur, to small business, to medium business, to large, to nation-sized, to multinational, to international. Where do we draw that line?
Where does whose freedom stop and why? This is the question government is meant to answer, the base of the majority of disagreements between humans across the whole of time. Self-government is supposed to be the closest approximation to the ideal, that's our model.
The problem is not the corporations who are exercising their freedom, it is the congress who are supposed to moderate and oversee the process by which "freedom" is doled out (in the diminutive sense).
Congress is able to both reduce or stop any and all of what might ail you specifically or us as a whole in the legal sense. As a necessary result of our constitution and the legal structure of our government it is then by proxy the people who are at fault.
This congress and the 6 previous have failed to do much of anything of note. The American people have not taken note. The self portion of self government has fallen into disrepair. That isn't the fault of congress or anyone above adjacent or in between. It is OUR responsibility to give two halves of a shit (one entire shit) about our country and do something about what is happening. Self government has become government, the scapegoat for all of our woes and the progenitor of all of our suffering--the seventh seal of the apocalypse, the second coming of Stalin feat. cronies and every other metaphor to have fallen out of the hat thus far.
All the while it's actually us who are running the show. Is it any wonder that we're doing a shit job while we sit here and feel sorry for ourselves about it? If you think of the American people as one man and one woman, both who have the job of voting (Read: voting is totally our job in this whole thing)--for at least the last 20 years every day when the alarm rings for them to go in to work they both tie off, chase the dragon a bit, and nod back off. Every once in awhile one of them comes in, unwashed and without pants, to cast a vote.
What I'm saying is if voting was our job (it is) we would be fired as fuck. Unfortunately we're actually the top of the pyramid here, so there's no one to fire us. It's like we're the CEO of a company and we're just in our top-floor office snorting meth and collecting our pee in jars. That's how our country is being run, and it's us doing it--or rather not doing it.
Well, that got pretty deep and specific. Obviously Seamaiden if there's any nastiness it's not directed at you--this is us as a whole and that includes me.
If you won't advocate for any specific forms of agitation, allow me;
Write- friends, family, colleagues, us here on the Farm, the newspaper, your congressman, senator and the president. Write blogs, graffiti, for the hell of and as if your country depends on it. Just doing that puts you firmly in the one percent of this country!
Make it hot for anyone fucking up or fucking off in government to get away with it. Make it impossible for elected officials to ignore their constituents.
Then, maybe your vote will have a chance to count for something worthwhile.
I agree with you all the way up until the part where you think our problems can be solved through voting. There was a time when that was probably true.
Nail on the head ..... both candidates are 90/100 times garbage - imo that is what has stopped people from voting because neither of the two are on your side
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