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Wage Slavery

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#61
She's Playin' Hard to get Dawg... (Siri) Tap those buttons just right and she be Beggin' you to Lick that Touch Screen ;) If she don't warm up tell her you be Tappin the Buttons on A Galaxy S5 and she'll come around... Have A Good One :cigar:
 
#63
kolah said:
If we are "stuck" with repubs and dems how is voting going to change anything? It's no matter if 100 people vote or 10 million people vote we still get a repub or a dem and end up with the same result.
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The point I'm making is that there is a legal recourse citizens may take by which a nominee can be presented whom is neither democrat nor republican--they may then vote for that nominee and elect them. Thus, electing a person who doesn't belong to either party. It can be done, we're just not doing it.
 
#64
squiggly said:
The point I'm making is that there is a legal recourse citizens may take by which a nominee can be presented whom is neither democrat nor republican--they may then vote for that nominee and elect them. Thus, electing a person who doesn't belong to either party. It can be done, we're just not doing it.
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...and we as citizens do this, regularly. Where are all those third party candidates now? Oh yeah- twisting in the wind because the real power- vested in the party apparatus itself- sees absolutely nothing to be gained by working with them.

Hence the bureaucracy- and the status quo- remain intact, undisturbed.

You've yet to put forward any real suggestions to combat that, which is the real challenge to American politics- and our future as a nation.
 
#65
ttystikk said:
...and we as citizens do this, regularly. Where are all those third party candidates now? Oh yeah- twisting in the wind because the real power- vested in the party apparatus itself- sees absolutely nothing to be gained by working with them.

Hence the bureaucracy- and the status quo- remain intact, undisturbed.

You've yet to put forward any real suggestions to combat that, which is the real challenge to American politics- and our future as a nation.
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Nope. Nope. Nope.

It's not bureaucracy that's preventing this from happening. It is a lack action by the people. A lack of will to enact change. Nothing more or less. The legal constructs which we need to make this happen are in place in each and every state in the country. All of them. No red tape to cut, no elected bodies to lobby. Simply people, a law, and the will (or lack of it) to carry out a function defined by the law.

If an apple is on the ground and I want to pick it up, but choose not to because I am lazy and I've already got an orange on my desk. I don't blame the false bureaucracy set up by the orange for the current position of the apple. I don't say the orange is exerting its power over me and keeping me from picking up the apple.

I blame myself, and myself only, for not picking the damn thing up.

I'm sorry guys, but this is like complaining about not having something which is sitting right in front of you. In fact it's not like that, it's precisely that.
 
#66
squiggly said:
The point I'm making is that there is a legal recourse citizens may take by which a nominee can be presented whom is neither democrat nor republican--they may then vote for that nominee and elect them. Thus, electing a person who doesn't belong to either party. It can be done, we're just not doing it.
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seriously squiq when has any official ever been elected besides a rep or dem - I personally can't think of any that even got a few votes besides Ron Paul and where are they gonna get all the big advertising dollars - a seed auction maybe ?
 
#67
soserthc1 said:
seriously squiq when has any official ever been elected besides a rep or dem - I personally can't think of any that even got a few votes besides Ron Paul and where are they gonna get all the big advertising dollars - a seed auction maybe ?
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Exactly. You're making my point for me.

We bitch and moan about the dysfunction in Washington (me too), and yet we stand motionless and negligent as to what burdens lay at our feet. The problem you have laid out here is OUR problem. Congress isn't supposed to fix it, the president isn't, nor the many judges. It's for us to do. That it's not been fixed is OUR failure and it, yet, remains OUR job to fix it.

This is the basis of our country's operation. The buck stops here, so to speak. We don't have to like it, but yes--we are supposed to participate in government. Most people, even those who vote, are simply disinterested.
 
#68
Well i suppose this conversation could go on and on but hell i'm just a high school educated weed grower not looking to ruffle and feathers in a unfriendly state and i sure as hell don't wanna be an activist or a rebel so I guess i'll bow out and vote for the lesson of the two douce bags .... the dem candidate ...... unless there in favor of me being aloud to grow weed freely in my home , then they can be any party and they will get my vote......

A out of the box thought - maybe eliminating the zillions of dollar candidates waste of commercial throwing stones at each other they take that money and feed the hungry , cloth the poor, keep the dept under control , take care of disabled vets , hell build a damn playground, eliminate advertising for candidacy and get out and visit the people for free and not in a private jet either........
 
#69
In the Spirit of the Ghost of the Post "Wage Slavery" Past... Ever See an Employee "Fire" The Big Boss / Corporate Owner?
Politicians "Say One Thing" to Get in Office and "Do Another to Stay There"... In Other Words, They Flat Out Lie. They no longer Work for Us, We Work for them and @ the Same time provide "Human ATM Machines" @ any Location in the U.S.
 
#70
soserthc1 said:
A out of the box thought - maybe eliminating the zillions of dollar candidates waste of commercial throwing stones at each other they take that money and feed the hungry , cloth the poor, keep the dept under control , take care of disabled vets , hell build a damn playground, eliminate advertising for candidacy and get out and visit the people for free and not in a private jet either........
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Agree, but as you said this just feeds back into the argument which says we need to elect people who will change these things.
 
#71
squiggly said:
Agree, but as you said this just feeds back into the argument which says we need to elect people who will change these things.
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The real question is how can you be sure your vote is even counted? now that all voting is done electronically
 
#72
squiggly said:
Exactly. You're making my point for me.

We bitch and moan about the dysfunction in Washington (me too), and yet we stand motionless and negligent as to what burdens lay at our feet. The problem you have laid out here is OUR problem. Congress isn't supposed to fix it, the president isn't, nor the many judges. It's for us to do. That it's not been fixed is OUR failure and it, yet, remains OUR job to fix it.

This is the basis of our country's operation. The buck stops here, so to speak. We don't have to like it, but yes--we are supposed to participate in government. Most people, even those who vote, are simply disinterested.
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SQUIGGLY AND DEEPTHOUGHT AT THE VOTING CENTER


Squiggly and Deepthought stood before the voting center. There was a long line of people entering the center, leafing through pamphlets or having lively discussions with their companions...while another line of people exited with smiles of satisfaction on their faces and little "I Voted" stickers in their hands.

But off in the park next to the voting center were several groups of people that were texting on cell phones, eating fast food, skating.....doing all sorts of things, but clearly not voting.

Deepthought pointed to the people in the park. "Hey Squiggs, it looks like none of them are voting."

Squiggly looked over to the various groups in the park, "Hmm...yes. That is the problem. If everyone voted we could change things. There are just so many that don't vote."

Deepthought nodded, agreeing "Right...so how about we go over there and talk to them? Maybe we can convince them to vote, and maybe convince them to vote for things that we believe are right?"

Squiggly "People should vote. That's the problem. We are failing, it is our responsibility to fix things, we shouldn't blame anyone but ourselves."

Deepthought raised an eyebrow a little offput, "Ok, right...so....again, why don't we go do something about that by trying to get those people over there to vote?"

Squiggly "Voting is the answer. We must all vote to change things."

Deepthought shook his head, "Squiggs....those people aren't going to just spontaneously change. Someone has to light a fire under their butts, talk to them, do something to get them to vote!"

Squiggly "Everyone keeps complaining, putting the blame on others, but it is our problem. We are the ones that need to change things. We......" It was at this moment that Squiggly saw a dead horse lying on the ground. Squiggly pulled out a large stick, went over to the dead horse and began to beat it. "We need to vote!" Whap! "Voting is the answer, the only answer..." Whap! "No one else is to blame but us!" Whap! "We are failing, its our job to fix things!" Whap!

Deepthought shook his head and left Squiggly to beat on his dead horse.
 
#73
I didn't say voting was the answer, did I?

Voting is the easy part. The hard part is getting the right dude on the ticket. Learn to read between the lines dude.

What I said is we have the power to change this. It's going to take more than disinterestedly casting a vote once every 2-4 years. You're right, that is a dead horse--but it's not the one I'm beating on.
 
#74
In on my phone so I didn't read all the posts here
Bu I can't believe some of you still think there I a deference b tween dems and reps
They all are royalty to us and we are peasants to them
The title of this thread is wage slaves
They pay workers with money that looses value and take half of it back in taxes
For what?
Their protection?
From who?
The people with real power are not the ones that we vote for
The bankers run this country and most of the so called free world
If you pay 50% taxes you are a slave in my book
And the phoney money they pay you with is worth less every day
 
#75
Squiggs, in all due respect I have to say you are totally incorrect.

Tell me, Squiggs..who it was you voted for and/or what you personally voted for that had a large impact and positive effect for this country. One example.
 
#76
(highlighted in red) And this is why those votes don't mean shit. The vote process is an illusion to make people think they have a choice and a say. And sadly I'd guess 75% of people buy into the illusion. On a positive note more and more people are seeing The Oz behind the curtain.

caregiverken said:
In on my phone so I didn't read all the posts here
Bu I can't believe some of you still think there I a deference b tween dems and reps
They all are royalty to us and we are peasants to them
The title of this thread is wage slaves
They pay workers with money that looses value and take half of it back in taxes
For what?
Their protection?
From who?
The people with real power are not the ones that we vote for
The bankers run this country and most of the so called free world
If you pay 50% taxes you are a slave in my book
And the phoney money they pay you with is worth less every day
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#78
I guess "Wage Slavery" is Dead... It Morphed into Something Different Altogether but then again it isn't like there's A Shit Load of Jobs to be had Either... ;)
 
#79
Iamfree
 
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