This thread is fucking hilarious! Funny how some reply with thought and logic, others reply with humor and jest, still others reply with scary thoughts of world domination and control. Seems like we got a pretty accurate patchwork of american society here for sure. Its hard though to have a debate as confuten mentioned though, as any subject that involves a conspiracy brings in all the other conspiracy theorists espousing their own theory. Really muddys up the waters on the subject of masculinity when you start talking about Geo-Politics, World Systems Theory, Governments role in society etc. IF people want to debate or talk about all this other shit, start your own thread, shit we all know you need a long thread to even touch the surface of things such as the IMF and the World Bank or whatever power structure you want to discuss. I feel like with all the information people have available in todays age, they try and tie it all together no matter if it does not follow a logical path. Not to discount the extreme interconnected nature of our society, but people cant even debate anymore with out getting way off track in terms of causation. I love to debate in a respectful and logical fashion and am always willing to be wrong and learn more. Each one teach one.