Water Chilling Q & A

ttystikk · Jun 27, 2013

Swany said:
The creek is cold, but I have not measured it yet. I'm fairly certain it's 60 or below which would give the the 20 degree differential if running CO2 at 80 F. Don't know if that would get me condensation however.

So rh control with a chiller set up is done with condensation. Is it as simple as putting a drip tray under the radiator and letting what ever water condenses fall into the tray and drain away?

You'll need to separate your water droplets from your outgoing air, but yes. It really IS that simple. If your cooling system water is 60f, your humidity at 80f air temp will be about 70%. Perfect. Colder water will reduce dewpoint, and therefore RH.

Yes, it really is that simple. Simple and EFFICIENT. How efficient? My 2 Ton chiller keeps up with 16kW of bloom lights, AND dehueys as per the example above, AND cools all my RDWC. I know a lot of hvac professionals- on this site- who will sell you four times that much capacity in AC for the same job- and it won't work as well.

Seamaiden · Jun 27, 2013

Ttystick, would you happen to have the links to other threads so that we can have them referenced here? Also, is there any way to get a better shot of your manifold system, or perhaps a schematic/graphic?

seebobsled · Jun 27, 2013

I tried to post pics. I'll try again.

ttystikk · Jun 27, 2013

Seamaiden said:
Ttystick, would you happen to have the links to other threads so that we can have them referenced here? Also, is there any way to get a better shot of your manifold system, or perhaps a schematic/graphic?

I will take more pics. I want a graphics app that I can draw with on my phone, save as a .jpg and post up on here... then I could draw and illustrate. Then, I would be scary...

ftwendy · Jun 27, 2013

Have you seen google sketch up tty? I don't know about a phone app, but it sure comes in handy when working on 3d designs.

Swany · Jun 27, 2013

ftwendy said:
Have you seen google sketch up tty?

Sketch up is powerful software. It's suppose to be easy, but to me it seems a bit toughs to learn. Used it to lay out my room but only in 2D. It would be sweet to pass around files and get help with designs 'on paper'

ftwendy · Jun 27, 2013

I agree that it can be a punk to learn, but most of the tools are pretty intuitive... and its FREE. Play with things for a while and you will get the hang of it. Also feel free to pm me with questions -- I'll do my best to help ya.

I was amazed at how many components of my drawings were already available for download (pellet stoves, stairs, sink, cabinets, etc, not to mention air cooled reflectors!). If you haven't fiddled around with the software, download it and see for yourself. Cool shit.

ttystikk · Jun 28, 2013

ftwendy said:
I agree that it can be a punk to learn, but most of the tools are pretty intuitive... and its FREE. Play with things for a while and you will get the hang of it. Also feel free to pm me with questions -- I'll do my best to help ya.

I was amazed at how many components of my drawings were already available for download (pellet stoves, stairs, sink, cabinets, etc, not to mention air cooled reflectors!). If you haven't fiddled around with the software, download it and see for yourself. Cool shit.

Do I download from the play store? How do I know which is the right one?

ftwendy · Jun 28, 2013

http://google-sketchup.en.softonic.com/

Happy Friday broski.... how's the eye healing?

Swany · Jun 28, 2013

ttystikk said:
You'll need to separate your water droplets from your outgoing air, but yes. It really IS that simple. If your cooling system water is 60f, your humidity at 80f air temp will be about 70%. Perfect. Colder water will reduce dewpoint, and therefore RH.

I assume you mean cooling water at 60F, air temp at 80F then humidity will be around 70%. I really need to get that pump built! Too bad I already spend $200 on a dehuie.

How do you separate water droplets from the airstream? Just put a sheet of metal in front of the fan to direct airflow and catch water? A screen of some kind? Mesh like that used in a swamp cooler?

Seamaiden · Jun 28, 2013

ftwendy said:
Have you seen google sketch up tty? I don't know about a phone app, but it sure comes in handy when working on 3d designs.

That's gotta be better than the silly little art app I d/l'd. I do like my princess coloring book, though, and would share my princesses if I could figure out how to rename the jpgs!
No, I'm not kidding. I also color Bunny Family.

Oh damn! I'mma download me that thar app!

ttystikk · Jun 28, 2013

ftwendy said:
http://google-sketchup.en.softonic.com/

Happy Friday broski.... how's the eye healing?

So far, so good! Thanks for asking! And thanks for the link. I have a galaxy note 2, so I'm hoping it will be big enough to be useful with the software.

ttystikk · Jun 28, 2013

ttystikk said:
So far, so good! Thanks for asking! And thanks for the link. I have a galaxy note 2, so I'm hoping it will be big enough to be useful with the software.

Having trouble getting this to work on my phone. Any tricks to it?

ttystikk · Jun 28, 2013

Swany said:
I assume you mean cooling water at 60F, air temp at 80F then humidity will be around 70%. I really need to get that pump built! Too bad I already spend $200 on a dehuie.

How do you separate water droplets from the airstream? Just put a sheet of metal in front of the fan to direct airflow and catch water? A screen of some kind? Mesh like that used in a swamp cooler?

Muffin fan on top blows down thru Icebox heat exchanger, air goes down the duct and releases water at the bottom. Air makes the u-turn, water can't. This is distilled water, just drain it right back into your hydro system!

Mods, please fix pics, they are upside down and will hinder understanding. Idk how to edit.

ftwendy · Jun 28, 2013

ttystikk said:
Having trouble getting this to work on my phone. Any tricks to it?

I have no experience using sketchup on a droid platform...... I'm headed out to dinner with a droid geek tho, and I will ask him what his thoughts are.

ttystikk · Jun 28, 2013

ftwendy said:
I have no experience using sketchup on a droid platform...... I'm headed out to dinner with a droid geek tho, and I will ask him what his thoughts are.

Badda Bing

ftwendy · Jun 28, 2013

Back from dinner... no answers tho! Guy has no exp with sketchup on a droid/phone either. We came to the conclusion the software really is best suited for a desktop, all things considered. Food for thought.

I'm hoping bada bing means you got things figured out? If not yet, pls post up the specific issue and maybe we can hash this out ourselves.

ttystikk · Jun 28, 2013

ftwendy said:
Back from dinner... no answers tho! Guy has no exp with sketchup on a droid/phone either. We came to the conclusion the software really is best suited for a desktop, all things considered. Food for thought.

I'm hoping bada bing means you got things figured out? If not yet, pls post up the specific issue and maybe we can hash this out ourselves.

No, was hoping your guy would have the answer. I'm having trouble getting my galaxy note 2 to connect to much of anything. I'm very disappointed.

ftwendy · Jun 28, 2013

Cool... let's muddle through this bro. Maybe it will help others.

Can you at least install it? What happens, what doesn't?

seebobsled · Jun 28, 2013

Swany said:
The creek is cold, but I have not measured it yet. I'm fairly certain it's 60 or below which would give the the 20 degree differential if running CO2 at 80 F. Don't know if that would get me condensation however.

So rh control with a chiller set up is done with condensation. Is it as simple as putting a drip tray under the radiator and letting what ever water condenses fall into the tray and drain away?

Just a thought but take a few glasses of water and add plus one ice cube to them. Take them in your room. The one that sweats is your dew point temperature. Use a meat thermometer or body thermometer..... check temperature. You could just grab a glass from your stream in your case and see if it sweats. There are dew point grafts around if ya search.

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