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I use Down To Earth brand azomite in my soil mix. I went and looked at the box to see any info on the heavy metals and there is a link for more info but, it didn't lead me to any specific info but only more leads to follow.I never used azomite, but the commerical facility stopped using it cause when we trialed it on a couple plants we failed lab tests for heavy metals. But it might have been the company we got the AZOMITE from.
Here is what I bought.Unfortunately i honestly cant remember the company, it was a while ago, but i know it was in a white bag with green strips going down each side of the bag.
Yes, pure blend pro does have synthetic nutrients in it. Not much really, but thats why it cant be labeled fully organic.Thats crazy i was under the impression that Pure Blend Grow/Bloom still had synthetics! Thats awesome that they dont.
I personally do a kelp fermentation and it is unmatched for bloom enhancer and natural root stimulant.
The PBP series is about 80% organic 20% mineral, the kind series I believe is the opposite (80% mineral 20% organic)
In the u.p. we are doing it! A boat chops seaweed through the channels, in the les cheneaux islands, so the boats can cruise without pesky seaweed in your prop. A buddy picked some up. Not sure if hes top dressing, or making juice.Ive always wanted to try an outdoor grow with seaweed from the Great Lakes!
You can use fulvic acid as an organic ph down.helps with plants uptake of nutes ,can b intergrated into your ipm regiment to fight insects too..and a chelatorIt seems like I seen a video and a guy said the citric acid kills the microbes too. I have seen so many damn articles and videos on my info hunt. I don't remember where it was. I keep reading you shouldn't have to worry about ph in your irrigation water with living soil. The microbes buffer it. IDK it was on the internet so it must be true!
I absolutely agree with you. Its about building the soil and less risk to environment. Growing in pots indoors with orgainic nutrients then throwing the soil out kinda defeats the purpose in the terms most organic growers think of. Of course benefits to both but this notion of inorganic nutrients somehow being bad or organic producing a better cleaner product is absurd. In the end a plant will only take up inorganic nutrients.I prefer fully organic / soil building, but I admit that bioavailable bottles nutrients (organic or synthetic) have some advantages indoors. Soil building really shines in the ground or in very large containers.
Growing in pots indoors with orgainic nutrients then throwing the soil out kinda defeats the purpose in the terms most organic growers think of
Of course benefits to both but this notion of inorganic nutrients somehow being bad or organic producing a better cleaner product is absurd
I couldn't agree more. Garbage in equal garbage out no matter the source.Yeah at that point IMO the main advantage you get with organics is ease of use and disadvantage is lack of control
If you are really worried about a clean product you need inputs tested for heavy metals, pesticides and herbicides. Some “organic” products can be the worst offenders due to biomagnification. Especially big name soils and composts, which are generally rebranded municipal green waste.
This is why I am using organic nutrients from roots with a "supersoil" layer below a coco/perlite layer. Just for ease and trying to manage organic advantages without soil wet/dry cycle concerns. Basically supplement nutrient levels at various levels to balance it out ish. So far I think it is going okay.I couldn't agree more. Garbage in equal garbage out no matter the source.
I am actually considering some organic stuff in coco in the future. For ease and benefits of more diverse microbial life. Its definitely a little more tricky but like you say there are benefits to both. No matter if its indoor container or outdoor in the ground. Honestly outdoor in the ground I cant see why anyone would not go organic and supplement inorganic only if needed. If quality organics are used the benefits of a well built soil over time are huge and makes growing so much easier.
Just my opinions.
Well saidi buy organic pesticides and synthetic nutrients. To the best i can. I go more for clean raw pure nutrients but for the most part im dyna gro, and i run products here and there to see what they offer. Some times its nice to see if you are missing out on something great. Every product has its place. its more understanding each products place that gives the benefit for me than the product itself. i fall somewhere in the middle with lots of organic processes with the simplification of synthetic nutes. Which in theory if done right acts more of a boost to make more nutrients available. With the soil and amendments and all those living things doing their part. Much easier balance for my methods.
I dont really see one better than the other as they both have a spectrum of benefits which breaks down to user preference. More than preference the users ability to do it. If one were truly superior in all facets this discussion wouldn't be needed. So its not really a 'This is better then that'.... but more a point to the benefits one can gain from the working knowledge of both methods and their symbiosis/roles they play in the grand scheme. I dont like it to come across to new growers as one being superior by majority. When most growers have taken years to find what works for them. If i found another set of nutes for the same price as dyna gro that was as easy to use and control, id be all over it. But at the end of the day when comparing everything in that price range. Just is my preference to stick with dyna gro. As im sure which ever side of the spectrum id choose i could get relative results.
To the point of damage and negative impacts brought up by some of the people @shaganja posted. Its my opinion**. Most cannabis growers use amended soil and pots so hard to talk about what over use of nutrients and large scale environmental impacts have to the land when over used or can do to the soil. I havent met too many cannabis growers who werent far more ecoconcious to their products and there use. Than the commercial farmer counter part - as far as that discussion goes. I can see an argument to plastic waste. but not really eco waste or environmental damage from synth-nute use from the products themselves when used responsibly. We dont really use unsustainable products being hunted to extinction. Considering lots of us compost and all those things that would be a balance to our small scale grows. Probably much larger the talk of environmental impacts from mismanagement then proper use and disposal. Dumping your reservoir in a garden bed vs down the drain. Me applying dyna gro to my farm field isnt going to destroy my forest. I can certainly damage the soil to where things will only grow when given nutrients. But for me that falls under mismanagement vs the product itself.
Regardless of where you fall. I believe the goal when growing is using as little product as possible to achieve the best results. I dont want to use 35x more products to achieve 5% more yield and have to tell myself it tastes better to justify the expense. Whether organic or synth.
Just my 2 cents on synth vs organic.
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