What is causing the curling down and stunted new growth?

[Jestertz]

Why would pit on ground cause no airflow .... it's a fabric pot ?? Air is literally exchanging all through it. Unless sitting in a puddle on the floor shouldn't it be ok ?? I had mine sitting in saucers before I got pot risers and had no problem because didn't sit in puddle of water. I'm new but I don't see how if ground was dry a fabric pot on the floor would hinder air exchange ?

 

[Timberman]

Why would pit on ground cause no airflow .... it's a fabric pot ?? Air is literally exchanging all through it. Unless sitting in a puddle on the floor shouldn't it be ok ?? I had mine sitting in saucers before I got pot risers and had no problem because didn't sit in puddle of water. I'm new but I don't see how if ground was dry a fabric pot on the floor would hinder air exchange ?

I'm pretty sure it was in a puddle on the floor at times.

 

[Jestertz]

I'm pretty sure it was in a puddle on the floor at times.

Oh OK. Yea I have heard if left sitting in watwr roots will drown

 

[GNick55]

you haven’t feed anything yet, just the soil it’s in?
than i’d would go through a couple wet/dry! cycles before doing anything drastic..
maybe raise your light 6-10 inches till looking better..

 

[Timberman]

you haven’t feed anything yet, just the soil it’s in?
than i’d would go through a couple wet/dry! cycles before doing anything drastic..
maybe raise your light 6-10 inches till looking better..

No, haven't fed anything at all. Thanks for the advice. I just raised light.

 

[Timberman]

you haven’t feed anything yet, just the soil it’s in?
than i’d would go through a couple wet/dry! cycles before doing anything drastic..
maybe raise your light 6-10 inches till looking better..

This is some of my outside plants in the same soil. They have been getting to much rain lately and they look great in comparison. They have been on shelves off the ground though, so I suspect that is the difference.

 

[BigBlonde]

Why would pit on ground cause no airflow .... it's a fabric pot ?? Air is literally exchanging all through it. Unless sitting in a puddle on the floor shouldn't it be ok ?? I had mine sitting in saucers before I got pot risers and had no problem because didn't sit in puddle of water. I'm new but I don't see how if ground was dry a fabric pot on the floor would hinder air exchange ?

The bottom of the pot is also fabric, so airflow there helps. Floors tend to be cold, as well. Risers help with watering, too, because it's easy to see runoff from the bottom, which indicates the soil is saturated.

 

[TomH]

I think you are correct Tom. What do you think ai should do besides transplant to help it. Do you think it a lost cause on this plant? I have it off the floor with fan blowing under it now.

A couple things:
1 - you have a lot of good eyes and minds looking at this thread. Good information so far. I think you’re going in the right direction, but continue to improve your environment with these recommendations.
2 - I never consider anything a lost cause. I try to learn with every grow, if something goes sideways, find out how to correct it in process So I can do better the next time.
Good luck with this grow.

 

[GNick55]

This is some of my outside plants in the same soil. They have been getting to much rain lately and they look great in comparison. They have been on shelves off the ground though, so I suspect that is the difference.

number one rule- indoors stay indoors.. outdoors stays outdoor..
when with outdoor plants make sure you wash/shower change cloths before going anywhere near the indoor plants…
because mildew and pest can easily be brought in.. hopefully nothing has happened yet..

 

[Gmix]

Glad others jumped in to help tbh I took a stab in the hope it would. Hope they get better n yeah gnicks so right about outside and inside plants.

One day I tried to cut down a bush, I already knew to wash ect however I did that but stupidly left my clothes on the floor :. Next thing I knew I was dealing with spider mites def not nice.

Anyways good luck

 

[Deadstill]

I'll be honest I haven't read through all the replies and what-not, but just looking at the pics, usually when I see plants that look like this, it almost always boils down to pH issues. Maybe test your runoff and see what the pH looks like after watering? Idk. Just my quick diagnosis. Hope this helps :D

 

[Timberman]

number one rule- indoors stay indoors.. outdoors stays outdoor..
when with outdoor plants make sure you wash/shower change cloths before going anywhere near the indoor plants…
because mildew and pest can easily be brought in.. hopefully nothing has happened yet..

Yep. I don't take my plants back and forth, where they start is where they finish. I also take precautions. I tend to inside plants before I tend outside plants to make sure I don't bring anything in. Hopefully it stays this way but I have never had a single bug or mold problem indoors. Had plenty of problems outdoors though.

 

[BudgetGrower]

I have seen a few plants like this, in soil and hydro( root rot), your vpd is very low(92), your pot on the floor in a puddle and you have not feed after potting up( so its not nute burn etc), the airflow in the room is low, canopy level only.

The plants outside are off the floor and have more airflow, the vpd is probably higher too so the plants will need more water vs the one indoors

I would add a heater to raise the temperature a few degrees and this will reduce the humidity(vpd in range), let the plant really dry out, only water when the leaves drop, you need to get the root mass dry, so you can start to fix the problem.

 

[BigBlonde]

I continue to think about how I got spider mites last summer. I did have the plants outside in the spring, but I'm not sure that's the source of the pests. I'm now thinking they came from some nursery violets that were destroyed by spider mites later in the summer. That's the only other place I've seen spider mites since we've lived here.