Whats wrong with her? Leaves turning yellow and curling

[Gmix]

If you wish to continue with the medium your in read the links posted.

Coir has no food in it & needs a lot more attention than soil

You’ll need to get a ec meter ect

Hence why I’m saying a quick fix would be to transplant it carefully and wash the coir off
Not ideal but if your careful it will help you to quickly get the plant healthier

I have done it myself so I’m not blindly saying do this or that as said if your careful it will work out

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

So... The question is how to get that plant to harvest with an okay yield. IMO, that'll be difficult. The poor thing is starving. Here's my suggestion:

There isn't much green left. Those yellow leaves won't recover. The best recourse might be to buy some synthetic general-purpose nutrients. Start with that to help the plant get healthier. After a week or two, being sure the plant looks like it has recovered, transition to bloom nutrients. I'd also add calmag. The challenge with using synthetic nutrients is pH adjustment, which has already been mentioned. The advantage of using them is they take effect quickly.

Transplanting it is a good option, too, but I'd increase the nutrients before doing so.

 

[OODAloop]

Great advice i think it will help a lot

Really dont think you wanna try your chit with me

 

[HerbalEdu]

Btw no ones here to bash you alarm you or such like were trying to help herbs one of the kindest guys I’ve met on here he’s not out to bust your balls

well i'm not always very encline to give detailled information or explanation to anyone that don't make the effort to search and read for the basics stuff.

i'm getting tired of spending time searching for same articles chapter again and again with google and copy pasting them.

guy says he has done lot of research ...
yet he's growing in 75% coco 25% soil without monitoring pH and EC/ppm ... this coco to soil ratio is nowhere no be found or advised on the net ...
make it obvious he has no fucking clues what's he is doing and need to start with the basics about growing in coco

but well:

So... The question is how to get that plant to harvest with an okay yield. IMO, that'll be difficult too

look like it's a little before or a little after past the point flowering stretch is done and the buds gonna start to swell in the incoming weeks. leaves won't recover at this point you can just slow down the process of them decaying even more.

mineral or synthetic nuts wich are readily available for the plant would probably give the best results and start monitoring pH and ec as soon as possible

i won't risk myself cleaning the root ball from coco to replace with soil and transplant that's a too delicate process for me especially this late in flower with a plant that size

same not sure how different medium across the rootball would react regarding pH if you'd just tranplant with some more soil, and not sure how much more the roots will still grow this late into flowers and how that would really benefit

 

[Gmix]

Yeah I get it bud

I read him giving you a hard time when you was clearly trying to help

I was surprised you even came back again & tried to make him understand

All the best bud

 

[Gmix]

well i'm not always very encline to give detailled information or explanation to anyone that don't make the effort to search and read for the basics stuff.

i'm getting tired of spending time searching for same articles chapter again and again with google and copy pasting them.

guy says he has done lot of research ...
yet he's growing in 75% coco 25% soil without monitoring pH and EC/ppm ... this coco to soil ratio is nowhere no be found or advised on the net ...
make it obvious he has no fucking clues what's he is doing and need to start with the basics about growing in coco

but well:

So... The question is how to get that plant to harvest with an okay yield. IMO, that'll be difficult too

look like it's a little before or a little after past the point flowering stretch is done and the buds gonna start to swell in the incoming weeks. leaves won't recover at this point you can just slow down the process of them decaying even more.

mineral or synthetic nuts wich are readily available for the plant would probably give the best results and start monitoring pH and ec as soon as possible

i won't risk myself cleaning the root ball from coco to replace with soil and transplant that's a too delicate process for me especially this late in flower with a plant that size

same not sure how different medium across the rootball would react regarding pH if you'd just tranplant with some more soil, and not sure how much more the roots will still grow this late into flowers and how that would really benefit

Just chit chat really I don’t think he’s coming back

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You’d be surprised
I had 70+ plants in coir & had to transplant them into soil ( long complicated story )
None of them turned on me
They all rooted well & greened up within a few days they hardly skipped a beat tbh I remember it well as it was a chore & some

 

[amneziaHaze]

same not sure how different medium across the rootball would react regarding pH if you'd just tranplant with some more soil, and not sure how much more the roots will still grow this late into flowers and how that would really benefit

i transplanted from hydro to soil there was no shock that i noticed

 

[HerbalEdu]

Just chit chat really I don’t think he’s coming back

he may come back tomorrow.

i'm not even sure how a 75% coco 25% soil mix should be treated regarding pH i guess a pH in between the two around 6-6,5 or close might do the job. but he's not adjusting pH and i m not sure how much 25% soil will still buffer pH around 7 to a certain extent when mixed with 75% coco...

when you ask google about recommended pH for coco and soil mix you ll get no clear answer.

 

[Gmix]

he may come back tomorrow.

Hopefully.
My op freaked him out I guess as he mentioned something about being alarmed witch I wasn’t out to do when I said he should of posted earlier & mentioned some of the leaves being dead

when you ask google about recommended pH for coco and soil mix you ll get no clear answer.

Yep & it makes it hard to advise especially when you have all these companies making there own coir/soil mixes

Btw I do think yours & lovingit suggestions were a better option the only reason I suggested transplanting was because he’s doesn’t seem to understand that coir is hydro & how much more attention coir needs & i was thinking a fix that gets him out of it might be better till he understands coir a bit better plus the soil in it has to present its own difficulties

 

[HerbalEdu]

Yep & it makes it hard to advise especially when you have all these companies making there own coir/soil mixes

yeah i even tried a few queries about soil and coco mix and ph with google scholar and didn't get much more success ... when you usually find load of articles on every basic and advanced generic farming, planting and cannabis related topics

Btw I do think yours & lovingit suggestions were a better option the only reason I suggested transplanting was because he’s doesn’t seem to understand that coir is hydro & how much more attention coir needs & i was thinking a fix that gets him out of it might be better till he understands coir a bit better plus the soil in it has to present its own difficulties

not sure what solution is really better for him both have pro and con

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

It seems to me it's darn hard to bring a plant back once it's flowering. It's past the vegetative stage when growth is the plant's priority, so the only option is to work with what's there. A skilled grower could probably transplant it, but it would still have nutrient deficiencies. Synthetic nutrients seem to me to be the only promising possibility, but using synthetics takes skills, too.

I used to do computer customer service. Many times, I heard someone say they didn't want to learn how to do something, they just wanted to get it done. This person reminded me of those days.

 

[420r]

I transplanted to a new pot, hope it will survive. I didnt notice it becoming bigger or more yellow, so it looks like its frozen in time. Hope it can now recover because I dont think transplanting so late in flower is good, but the roots can still grow then?

 

[Gmix]

The roots should grow as long as you was careful you should be good

 

[Gmix]

I transplanted to a new pot, hope it will survive. I didnt notice it becoming bigger or more yellow, so it looks like its frozen in time. Hope it can now recover because I dont think transplanting so late in flower is good, but the roots can still grow then?

It will still root, roots continue to grow in flower just not as much as they do in veg

Your still going to have to nurse it back to health.

It needs some npk the soil will only take you so far & she’s hungry

That 13/14 is a booster your ment to use it at the end of flower along with a bloom product.

You need a bloom fert with some n in it as well as p&k

The booster is just p&k

The yellow leaves are dead & wont recover they will die however some of the leaves will live & you’ll get something back but lower your expectations on this one treat it as a learning experience.

You shouldn’t need to adjust your ph now your in soil

 

[420r]

Thank you. Is it normal that the smell seems less too?

I just checked up on her 20 hours after transplanting and it appears alright, not more dead or whatever. Still yellow leaves yes. I got a lot of runoff, should I just keep watering it as much as possible as long as i have runoff so it doesnt drown? And I will look into getting better nutrients

 

[HerbalEdu]

i'd say you should slow down on the watering frequency as the root will grow into the fresh 100% soil media, for now they are in 75% coco 25% soil wich drain and dry back faster than soil.

stagnent water due to watering too often in 100% soil will cause root rot and lockout

not enough frequent watering in 75% coco will cause underwatering.

your pot is now a mix in between the two, you need to find the sweet spot for watering as the plant grow new roots.

 

[HerbalEdu]

And I will look into getting better nutrients

you need to pick some nutrient accordingly to the medium you use

organic fertilizer need to be processed by soil bacteria to be available for the plant, usually ideal for soil grow less risk of lockout and salt built up, not really recommanded for hydro
Because organic fertilizers often don't completely decompose in hydroponic systems, phytotoxic compounds can accumulate. Dissolved oxygen also declines, and the combination can result in inhibited plant growth. Moreover, fertilizers containing animalderived sources tend to go rancid in recirculating systems.

while synthetic/mineral fertilizer deliver the nutrient redaily available in their final form for the plant
synthetic/mineral offer a better control over feeding but you'r more at risk of salt built up and lockout so it's usually advised to monitor ec/ppm (and pH)., best suitable for hydro (coco, rockwool, clay pebbles, nft,dwc ...), but still usable in soil.

then you'll find powder, or liquid nutrient, powder nutrient store for longer period of time without the risk of them degrading
and you ll find nutrients that you need to use reguarly on some other that you just need to apply once in a while

here you'll find a list of nutrient brands most people use to grow cannabis:

Best Cannabis Nutrients Ratings - Marijuana Nutrients Ratings - GrowDiaries

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[420r]

Can I get an update is it looking better? I think the buds are become slightly bigger, so maybe its good i hope idk

 

[420r]

^ I would really love if someone could give me some good news that it is doing better. I also started a smaller new one just in case but to be honest i have some space issues and only wanted to try once so I really hope this one survives still because it really is an inconvenience in my house.

But do the budds look like they are getting bigger compared to the first pics? It looks slightly bigger, but they are in no way 'full' or 'solid' yet and idk if it ever comes.. Maybe im just impatient but i would just like some good news

 

[Gmix]

The way it was it will never fully recover
However you’re right the buds do look bigger so that’s good news.

At this point most of the yellow leaves will die they are to far gone to recover

You’ll still get something back however you really need to write it off as a learning curve & not stress about it that won’t change anything bar your mood.

And agree sounds like your overwatering
Herbs given you a lotta information to digest