Heh. Today is my first day of week 6.
Did you run the 3000K for veg as well?
As I said in an earlier response to this thread, I don't want or need big yields. I grow strictly for personal use. 400 watts at .6 gr every four months gives me more than I need.Yeah, but it's not unheard of at all to pull 1.5-2g/w with a CXB3590 though
The key question for me will be bud quality. I'm running my own test. I'll grow a crop with the cheaper lights, and see what I can obtain. I don't care what the buds look like per se; I don't need dickage. ;-) If I can't get the THC, I'll be changing my tune in a New York minute. But the reviews for the lights I got on Amazon give me confidence that the quality will be there. If I can get from .5 to .75 g/watt for a four month harvest, I'll be good. Again, as I say, if the quality is there. I'm not a rookie, I'm gonna see what I can get out of these cheap guys.Efficiency pays for itself. And the quality of the bud would be better. I get you don't need a lot, but those lights will pay for themselves. I'm just using a 600w and 300w vipar pulling a little over 400w, and it seems fine, but could definitely be better.
Again, that's why there's multiple realms of the market. Some people are fine with cheap lights that will "do the job", and others want the CXB's, Vero's, and Citizen chips. To each their own.
The key question for me will be bud quality. I'm running my own test. I'll grow a crop with the cheaper lights, and see what I can obtain. I don't care what the buds look like per se; I don't need dickage. ;-) If I can't get the THC, I'll be changing my tune in a New York minute. But the reviews for the lights I got on Amazon give me confidence that the quality will be there. If I can get from .5 to .75 g/watt for a four month harvest, I'll be good. Again, as I say, if the quality is there. I'm not a rookie, I'm gonna see what I can get out of these cheap guys.
But I must say that if I was made of money, this would be in my closet.
In my case, efficiency doesn't necessarily pay for itself. I pay 7 cents a kwh. I can't step down much from the 350 watts I'm drawing now. Additional dope will just be given away to family and friends; there is no financial return to increased yield. The only thing that will motivate me to step up is bud quality. And I need to see that inferiority for myself.
price?footprint?My current configuration is 6 rows of 3 COBs which are currently not all at the same height };-)
haI don't care what the buds look like per se; I don't need dickage. ;-)
price?footprint?
if I added another 6 COBs I believe I would get a full 4 x 8 coverage but I really don't need that much.
I believe (contrary to popular belief) that there is a point of diminishing returns by adding more lights.
There is nothing wrong with the cheaper panels, they're just 10 year old tech.
They only pay for themselves if you need the extra yield and are selling it. That doesn't describe everyone.Preeecisely. IMO a Vero/CXB/Citizen will pay for themselves just as quickly as a cheap LED. And from there they'll give you 2-3x the results.
They only pay for themselves if you need the extra yield and are selling it. That doesn't describe everyone.
has nothing to do with selling really.unless you like giving more money to your power company at which point you should just use a 1000w hps and if you only grow a small amount place your plant to the edge of the light and let the rest hit the floor.They only pay for themselves if you need the extra yield and are selling it. That doesn't describe everyone.
It isn't less power consumption. Its about the same power consumption for more yield. If you don't need the yield, there isn't much savings.Less power consumption for a higher yield. Not sure how that isn't paying for itself regardless?
probabaly you could use 200w of cobs and yield 1.5 grams per watt and save on power and still yield more.are you saying if ya havest 10 oz ya cant just skip a cycle for even more savings?It isn't less power consumption. Its about the same power consumption for more yield. If you don't need the yield, there isn't much savings.
For example, I'm running two Higrows, for a wall usage of about 375 watts. Let's say I get .5 gr per watt for the grow. That will be about 180 grs, or about 6 ounces. We smoke about an ounce a month. Over the four month cycle, we produce more than we consume. I don't sell, so the excess is simply free weed; no actual savings.
If I get the timber grow lights 300 Watt COB setup, I'm out $579 bucks. Yeah, I'll get more yield, but again, the excess doesn't really do me any good; I don't sell. I'll spend $300 more than I'm out now. My electric rate is $.07/kwh, so the electric savings is minimal. I'll save about 75 watts/hour over the grow, or about 11 bucks over the crop.
I get that COBs are better. But they are pretty expensive to get that better. I'm gonna see what the higrows will do. The reviews by the actual users on Amazon remain more positive than the reviews by the non-users here, and my past results were quite successful as far as they went. I remain cautious about what the budding will be like, but we'll get that knowledge soon.
probabaly you could use 200w of cobs and yield 1.5 grams per watt and save on power and still yield more.are you saying if ya havest 10 oz ya cant just skip a cycle for even more savings?
But I LIKE growing pot. Its one of my favorite hobbies. I just don't need to grow mountains.probabaly you could use 200w of cobs and yield 1.5 grams per watt and save on power and still yield more.are you saying if ya havest 10 oz ya cant just skip a cycle for even more savings?
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