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i wouldnt say with such confidence what is out there if i had grown only two autos and came out with one bud.. believe me its out there. and there is a reason autos are primarily only grown by new and inexperienced growers. they dont know any better yet. most issues with autos relate to water? what are you even talking about? no the issues with autos are in fact genetic. you say your new but then you argue these things like you have some sort of experience with it. anyways i said my two cents.
someone with experience explains to you some of the problems with the autos GENETICS, and you argue that the only problem is water? so i explain again that your in fact wrong, this is one of those moments where you know less than the person your talking too.. and still you argue like you know. you were probably a really stubborn kid. good luck learning literally anything with your current attitude, and have a nice day
Blueberry auto took more that 100watt led to grow thisAutoflowers finish small enough that you can do the whole grow with a 100w LED. Its marketing.
This. They are great for small wattage setups because you can flower 20 to 24 hours and get yeilds similar to a higher wattage photo setup IF you fill the canopy. Higher DLI for the auto from a smaller lamp.Autoflowers finish small enough that you can do the whole grow with a 100w LED. Its marketing.
That and they can't do it not right anyways lol no autos for this kid! I try to stick to the land race if I have a choice no hybreds either! But just my thoughtsWe have all seen the gradual shift. But coming back this year I see more and more beginners on this auto flower road like it's where they should start. So I decided to google "beginner what kind of seeds to buy" and various "beginner cannabis seed" how-tos.
In the past year a ton of articles about why they should start with auto flowers. then I see the recommendation to grow 4 plants in a 2'x2'x'3' tent. I have that tent. It's full of light leaks and I use it for seedlings. it's barely enough room to start seedlings.
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I get it auto flowers grow small. But is that really the level we want to aspire to new growers. I have nothing against them. But there is a whole side that appears wildly unethical. I personally don't see shoving as many plants in the tiniest grow space possible won't lead to issues and will be claimed easier for new growers...
I saw a tent company that said their grow tent is great for auto flowers cause you don't have to worry about light leaks. This sounds like a way to say "we have terrible quality control so let me tell you a fallacy why it's for auto flowers".
Why the push to make auto flowers a "gimmick grow for beginners"?
If this has been brought up while I was absent I apologize. I'm in no way saying I'm against auto. But the industry shift in marketing autos. I think are lots of benefits some growers might experience practicing their skills on autos. But it's certainly not "you can plant a seed and forget about it cause it does all the work for you". I understand we have a large shift in auto flower breeding operations and that's awesome.
I see things like
" autoflower marijuana can be challenging and costly as the seeds are expensive, but the plant, once given the proper care, will give the best yield possible. "
"Apart from being fast-growing and compact, auto-flowering cannabis plants are also highly resilient to illness, pests, and other diseases. So, if the auto-flowering plants' traits coincide with your requirement, then go for it."
" Excellent Yields – Despite the short time to harvest, quality autoflowering strains get comparable yields to photoperiod plants of the same size. That's because they receive up to twice as many hours of light a day while buds are forming. Get big yields, only faster. "
" Autoflowering cannabis offers an array of benefits, including the highest possible yield in the shortest conceivable time. "
" autoflowering seeds don’t require the same level of complexity of care as the other seed options in order to provide a bountiful crop. Marijuana seeds generally need specific cycles of time and lighting in order to move from the germination stage to the harvest stage properly. Autoflowering seeds remove these requirements and allow the plants to produce up to two harvests in the summer. "
"Flexible: Autoflowering seeds flourish in a variety of climates and environments. Even cities make hospitable environments for autoflowering cannabis seeds because artificial lighting doesn't negatively affect them."
I could find 100s of these examples. yes, we call setting a timer and being able to count to the number 24 super complex. and artificial light affects photoperiods? what? If that's complex for a grower to set a timer then My advice is you shouldn't grow. I'm all for promoting auto flowers. But when did the internet decide to market auto flowers so unethically to beginners? It's honestly so bad and since this is the home for beginners I feel it has to be discussed. if there is already a thread on this let me know?
I guess I understand how so many people paint themselves in a corner. When i start searching on new grower tips and come across that information on the most recent publishing of information from the main places.
Maybe I'm crazy in thinking it's unethical to tell new growers to just plant an autoflower seed and it does all the work for you without any of the issues? Just feels like it's setting people up for failure if they go into with that mindset of "I don't have to do anything".
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That and they can't do it not right anyways lol no autos for this kid! I try to stick to the land race if I have a choice no hybreds either! But just my thoughts Acopolco Gold
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One point that hasn't been brought up is thinking of the trend from the viewpoint of the seed seller. If you want to sell more seeds, get your new grower customers to grow feminized autos. They will have more cycles of planting each year, they can't take cuttings, they won't be saving seeds and if they want a lot of production they will have to plant more seeds. That's the reason for the trend.We have all seen the gradual shift. But coming back this year I see more and more beginners on this auto flower road like it's where they should start. So I decided to google "beginner what kind of seeds to buy" and various "beginner cannabis seed" how-tos.
In the past year a ton of articles about why they should start with auto flowers. then I see the recommendation to grow 4 plants in a 2'x2'x'3' tent. I have that tent. It's full of light leaks and I use it for seedlings. it's barely enough room to start seedlings.
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I get it auto flowers grow small. But is that really the level we want to aspire to new growers. I have nothing against them. But there is a whole side that appears wildly unethical. I personally don't see shoving as many plants in the tiniest grow space possible won't lead to issues and will be claimed easier for new growers...
I saw a tent company that said their grow tent is great for auto flowers cause you don't have to worry about light leaks. This sounds like a way to say "we have terrible quality control so let me tell you a fallacy why it's for auto flowers".
Why the push to make auto flowers a "gimmick grow for beginners"?
If this has been brought up while I was absent I apologize. I'm in no way saying I'm against auto. But the industry shift in marketing autos. I think are lots of benefits some growers might experience practicing their skills on autos. But it's certainly not "you can plant a seed and forget about it cause it does all the work for you". I understand we have a large shift in auto flower breeding operations and that's awesome.
I see things like
" autoflower marijuana can be challenging and costly as the seeds are expensive, but the plant, once given the proper care, will give the best yield possible. "
"Apart from being fast-growing and compact, auto-flowering cannabis plants are also highly resilient to illness, pests, and other diseases. So, if the auto-flowering plants' traits coincide with your requirement, then go for it."
" Excellent Yields – Despite the short time to harvest, quality autoflowering strains get comparable yields to photoperiod plants of the same size. That's because they receive up to twice as many hours of light a day while buds are forming. Get big yields, only faster. "
" Autoflowering cannabis offers an array of benefits, including the highest possible yield in the shortest conceivable time. "
" autoflowering seeds don’t require the same level of complexity of care as the other seed options in order to provide a bountiful crop. Marijuana seeds generally need specific cycles of time and lighting in order to move from the germination stage to the harvest stage properly. Autoflowering seeds remove these requirements and allow the plants to produce up to two harvests in the summer. "
"Flexible: Autoflowering seeds flourish in a variety of climates and environments. Even cities make hospitable environments for autoflowering cannabis seeds because artificial lighting doesn't negatively affect them."
I could find 100s of these examples. yes, we call setting a timer and being able to count to the number 24 super complex. and artificial light affects photoperiods? what? If that's complex for a grower to set a timer then My advice is you shouldn't grow. I'm all for promoting auto flowers. But when did the internet decide to market auto flowers so unethically to beginners? It's honestly so bad and since this is the home for beginners I feel it has to be discussed. if there is already a thread on this let me know?
I guess I understand how so many people paint themselves in a corner. When i start searching on new grower tips and come across that information on the most recent publishing of information from the main places.
Maybe I'm crazy in thinking it's unethical to tell new growers to just plant an autoflower seed and it does all the work for you without any of the issues? Just feels like it's setting people up for failure if they go into with that mindset of "I don't have to do anything".
I’m currently 30-50 days in on kush xl auto.. less than 5 inches! Outdoor only water fedi wouldnt say with such confidence what is out there if i had grown only two autos and came out with one bud.. believe me its out there. and there is a reason autos are primarily only grown by new and inexperienced growers. they dont know any better yet. most issues with autos relate to water? what are you even talking about? no the issues with autos are in fact genetic. you say your new but then you argue these things like you have some sort of experience with it. anyways i said my two cents.
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