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Once again this a copy of a thread i started over at ICmag. I hope you guys find this useful i'll add pictures also. I think you'll find that These bulbs are truly superior in a small space.
"First off i'd like to say thanks to ScrubNinja for turning me onto these.
I just finished a cab in which i was using spiral CFL's but still had me hoping for more. Light penetration was poor as was coverage. But what if you could stretch that spiral out and get the benefit of the tube. Too bad you cant fit an 18" tube in a 12" cube.This is where PL-L's come in, they manage to give you the power of a long t5 tube in half the length which they bend it in half.
It is also cooler since the bulb has more surface area for cooling. this is because a long single tube is much easier to cool than a balls of tubes just due to air contact, as long as there's a fan flowing over the bulb it should stay cool. You can also keep the heat out of your cab due to a remote ballast allows you to run higher wattages ,cooler. These ballasts arent warm like HPS/MH
One big problem with spirals is that they toss light into each other in the center of the spiral, where this light can't be utilized and just increases restrike. The penetration of PL's are also much better due to bulbs ability to spread out the light and direct it far better than the spiral. If your not using a spiral cfl vertically your wasting much of the lights potential. This would be the opposite with tubes though due to their ability to spread light over a larger coverage area.
Costs would be a little more expensive for a micro grower but not by much maybe $30 if that. I just purchased 6 bulbs, sockets, clips and a ballast to power 4-18w bulbs for $80. I think if your starting from a new and need to buy sockets and everything there is no reason not to make the switch. Why use outdated technology if your trying to achieve the best buds. Not to mention that most of us micro growers are limited by space and a spiral takes up way to much space if using a cab such as mine. The tubes really stay out of the way and would allow you to get the most out of your small space. My new box seems like a brand new space, i can't believe how much room it opened up.
I believe with pl-L's you can use less watts compared to CFL to gain the same or better yield. i'd easily spend the little bit of money again just to utilize the better light."
My new cab is 13x13x11" which is why i chose 18w Pl-l's their only 9".
Granted the light doesn't look bright in there in the pictures, but it real life its much brighter, and much cooler, i don't even have an exhaust fan in there yet.
"First off i'd like to say thanks to ScrubNinja for turning me onto these.
I just finished a cab in which i was using spiral CFL's but still had me hoping for more. Light penetration was poor as was coverage. But what if you could stretch that spiral out and get the benefit of the tube. Too bad you cant fit an 18" tube in a 12" cube.This is where PL-L's come in, they manage to give you the power of a long t5 tube in half the length which they bend it in half.
It is also cooler since the bulb has more surface area for cooling. this is because a long single tube is much easier to cool than a balls of tubes just due to air contact, as long as there's a fan flowing over the bulb it should stay cool. You can also keep the heat out of your cab due to a remote ballast allows you to run higher wattages ,cooler. These ballasts arent warm like HPS/MH
One big problem with spirals is that they toss light into each other in the center of the spiral, where this light can't be utilized and just increases restrike. The penetration of PL's are also much better due to bulbs ability to spread out the light and direct it far better than the spiral. If your not using a spiral cfl vertically your wasting much of the lights potential. This would be the opposite with tubes though due to their ability to spread light over a larger coverage area.


Costs would be a little more expensive for a micro grower but not by much maybe $30 if that. I just purchased 6 bulbs, sockets, clips and a ballast to power 4-18w bulbs for $80. I think if your starting from a new and need to buy sockets and everything there is no reason not to make the switch. Why use outdated technology if your trying to achieve the best buds. Not to mention that most of us micro growers are limited by space and a spiral takes up way to much space if using a cab such as mine. The tubes really stay out of the way and would allow you to get the most out of your small space. My new box seems like a brand new space, i can't believe how much room it opened up.
I believe with pl-L's you can use less watts compared to CFL to gain the same or better yield. i'd easily spend the little bit of money again just to utilize the better light."
My new cab is 13x13x11" which is why i chose 18w Pl-l's their only 9".



Granted the light doesn't look bright in there in the pictures, but it real life its much brighter, and much cooler, i don't even have an exhaust fan in there yet.