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Ok thank you everyone for the responses! So I transfered the because I thought maybe it was the soil. I used an organic soil. Like I said first time grower so new to this and appreciate any all input. I ended up transferring them. To small cup thinking maybe they were in to big of pots and also switched the soil. Now using Happy Frog Fox Farm soil. Now that your saying to flush them I wish I would have because the cups don't have any drain holes.
So either way what I'm hearing is they are savable if I take the right steps and that makes me happy. Put slot of effort and time into these and still learning.
OldManRiver anyway you could link me a pH tester that you would recommend ? I have Amazon prime so it'd probably be here the next day. Reason being I checked WalMart and couldn't find anything but fish tank pH. Also what lilly soil is.
Might be good to tell you what I did at first too.
I used purely organic soil not for any particular reason I just figured it'd be the safest option. Also I used smart water and Evian to water them for weeks which come to find out that Evians actually pH is like 6.8. but I did end up switching to my sink water and the fish tank pH strips suck so idk what the sinks pH actually is. It looked right in-between y and I but there's no way of telling because they suck.
So hopefully that can help access a little more. Here's more update photos..O and I have one that's doing pretty good which I did absolutely nothing different with but I'm proud of lmao
Thank you guys all so much for spending any amount of your time to respond
It's not usually an issue with any organic soil as chlorine will react with organic matter and be destroyed in the process. Max allowable is 4ppm and most often it's knly around 1ppm. Chlorine is actually a micronutrient and although I would not use it for a tea imo it's not an issue in soil.Just a heads up on the Fox Farm Happy Frog soil. When watering do not use tap water. The soil uses the natural food web and microbes to feed the plants. The chlorine will kill off the beneficial microbes. these microbes brake down the stuff in the Happy Frog soil to feed the roots. So If you kill them off you will have to feed with some bottled nutes. I hope this helps. Letting tap water sit for 4 days or so will evaporate the chlorine off supposedly. I took a giant trash bin cleaned it really good am and using that to store my water for the Happy Frog soil.
@OldManRiver will have much more knowledge on this than myself. I would say a properly amended organic soil. Or some added Gaia 4-4-4. There are so many options and I'm really not the guy to be giving advice on this.@OldManRiver
How to much aluminum or iron sulfate should I use? And which would you use?
Another question, I have to report the ones that are still in the cups, what soil would you recommend for outdoor growing that won't need me to keep dumping nutrients into it?
Also how would I add these to the plants? Are they a powder that I just dumping there and how much? Thank you so much !
@Aqua Man it's happy frog soil. Like I was telling oldmanriver I still have to report these plants, what soil would u recommend for outdoor growing that would require minimal additional nutes?
Follow the directions, but use less. For a 16 oz solo cup, a slightly heaping tablespoon would be a good place to start. Sprinkle on top, water in thoroughly, wait a few days, then measure again. Use half as much the second time. It doesn't mater which you use, it's the sulphate part that matters.@OldManRiver
How to much aluminum or iron sulfate should I use? And which would you use?
Another question, I have to report the ones that are still in the cups, what soil would you recommend for outdoor growing that won't need me to keep dumping nutrients into it?
Also how would I add these to the plants? Are they a powder that I just dumping there and how much? Thank you so much !
@Aqua Man it's happy frog soil. Like I was telling oldmanriver I still have to report these plants, what soil would u recommend for outdoor growing that would require minimal additional nutes?
I agree except I like FF OF for exactly those properties (delayed feed). It's far more forgiving that way and to me, much better for a beginning unguided grower.Follow the directions, but use less. For a 16 oz solo cup, a slightly heaping tablespoon would be a good place to start. Sprinkle on top, water in thoroughly, wait a few days, then measure again. Use half as much the second time. It doesn't mater which you use, it's the sulphate part that matters.
I have had really bad luck with Happy Frog the last two years, with pH being way too high. I will never use a Fox Farm product again. I wrote to them about it, and their answer was, send us the lot number, which I did, then I never heard from them again. Fuck them hard. GH Organic soil, available at my local big box store, has been great. I'm not an organic fanatic, it's just good soil. With any soil, you'll get better results with pot if you plan on using a veg feed and a bloom feed. If you use a soil like Miracle Grow, with fertilizer in it, you'll get timed release of nitrogen into your bloom period, which suppresses blooming and encourages stretch. Pot is best grown with a fairly low nitrogen, good drainage soil, and then augment the soil with feeding a very soluble (eg., NOT time release) pot oriented fertilizer. I use Botanicare Pro, but General Hydro, etc, are all fine. Just stick with one manufacturer, you can get issues if you mix and match. You need less than the manufacturers recommend, i use half as much, half as often, as they recommend, and I grow trees.
I am curious as to why you would say this. Rain is just relatively pure, slightly acidic water, and this statement makes no sense to me. Fertilizers broadly exist in two types, highly soluble, and somewhat insoluble. The timed release fertilizers and organic fertilizers, which depend on bio-breakdown to become available, have the disadvantage of being relatively insoluble, and therefore are providing nitrogen to your plants for a lengthy and indeterminant/difficult to manage time. This delivers nitrogen to your girls potentially past the time you want to be doing that. The 'synthetic' nutrients are typically soluble, and wash through the soil, allowing better control of the available nutrient profile over the season.You definitely don't want to be using synthetic nutrients if they are exposed to rain.
Well by synthetic I mean excluding slow release. The reason I say that is because they are immediately available and soluable so they are quickly washed out of the soil in a heavy rain unlike organic amendments.I am curious as to why you would say this. Rain is just relatively pure, slightly acidic water, and this statement makes no sense to me. Fertilizers broadly exist in two types, highly soluble, and somewhat insoluble. The timed release fertilizers and organic fertilizers, which depend on bio-breakdown to become available, have the disadvantage of being relatively insoluble, and therefore are providing nitrogen to your plants for a lengthy and indeterminant/difficult to manage time. This delivers nitrogen to your girls potentially past the time you want to be doing that. The 'synthetic' nutrients are typically soluble, and wash through the soil, allowing better control of the available nutrient profile over the season.
I agree except I like FF OF for exactly those properties (delayed feed). It's far more forgiving that way and to me, much better for a beginning unguided grower
Nutes, in particular nitrogen, washing out reasonably quickly is what you want when growing weed. I think they are washed out less quickly than you think, certainly if you are in the ground, rather than pots, as I am. Nutes aren't food, they are more like vitamins. An excess of nutes is much harder to remedy than a shortage. I am currently battling an excess of nitrogen from too much manure over the past five years.Well by synthetic I mean excluding slow release. The reason I say that is because they are immediately available and soluable so they are quickly washed out of the soil in a heavy rain unlike organic amendments.
Your points are exactly why I say this. But that's not to say that if they need a bump synthetics aren't good because that's exactly what I would use for a boost
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