when was the last time you paid msrp at your hydro store? so maybe we're talking something less than $900. two hours later, if you can follow directions, you have nutes in the system awaiting plants. there's no design work to be done, no hole saw to buy, and no late-night runs to home depot for another pvc fitting. everything you need is in the box, packaged extremely well, with instructions.
and it performs extremely well. consistently.
i love hot rodding as much as anyone . . . designing and tweeking systems . . . but for those who want to put together a great system with no hassle, it can't be beat. and on top of all that, you get fantastic customer service. dog chewed up a bulkhead? give cc a call and they get one out to you that day. have a question about nute levels? give cc a call and they'll have an answer for you based upon years of experience.
Im just curious..if a manufacturer has $400 in cost what do you think they should sell it for? I've been in manufacturing all my life and the formula commonly used in large durable goods is material cost x 2.53% or divide by .40 I think and bill labor at 3 x pay rate..otherwise you are pretty much goin to loose money and that doesn't include any engineering if required that strait manufacturing no prototyping cost.If you walked into a machine shop tomorrow 9 times out of 10 they will start with that formula and adjust on quantity material buys. So if you make something for $400 how much if fair to you? $425.00, 500.00, 600.00? if you apply the traditional formula 400 x 2.53, you would be at $1012.00 then add labor to prep and package..so if you look at it like that it is under priced...the cheapest you can do it using the exact same components, not DIY tubs, cheap pumps, and no plumbing, is still over $400 bucks and you have to track it all down, cut all the tubes, cut all the buckets and that was me buying buckets 45 at a time to get the cost those down..if you think $900 is to much then don't buy one and build one yourself but quit bitchin all the time about how much they are..
My better half is a numbers guy and he looked into the cost of building the system before we bought ours and the difference for the same parts to make the system from plastic mart and all the cheapest places we could find for everything. In the end it was a couple hundred bucks that we would have saved if we made no mistakes and did it perfect the first time with no room for error and no instructions. No bulkheads attached to the pvc already no excellent customer service to consult. It pays for itself in less than six months. I kinda feel like I should tip em due to the fact that we have built a diy system and had to work out the bugs and run to the hardware store 40 minutes away when you live in the mountains sometimes 2 times in one day because you flooded your room with a couple hundred gallons of water. We spent way more trying to beat the sticker price and it was a lot of trial and error. I think its the best couple hundred bucks you will ever spend to have a system ready to rock all the trial and error done for you and no runs to the store for the right part. Its all in the boxes with instructions and I think there is even a youtube video now step by step assembly. You get what you pay for and its all put together for ya right here in Cali by people that have spent time with the system. Just look at this measuring cup that was sent with my last order.Im just curious..if a manufacturer has $400 in cost what do you think they should sell it for? I've been in manufacturing all my life and the formula commonly used in large durable goods is material cost x 2.53% or divide by .40 I think and bill labor at 3 x pay rate..otherwise you are pretty much goin to loose money and that doesn't include any engineering if required that strait manufacturing no prototyping cost.If you walked into a machine shop tomorrow 9 times out of 10 they will start with that formula and adjust on quantity material buys. So if you make something for $400 how much if fair to you? $425.00, 500.00, 600.00? if you apply the traditional formula 400 x 2.53, you would be at $1012.00 then add labor to prep and package..so if you look at it like that it is under priced...the cheapest you can do it using the exact same components, not DIY tubs, cheap pumps, and no plumbing, is still over $400 bucks and you have to track it all down, cut all the tubes, cut all the buckets and that was me buying buckets 45 at a time to get the cost those down..if you think $900 is to much then don't buy one and build one yourself but quit bitchin all the time about how much they are..
they are not "made in china" they are made right here in the usa... when i ordered mine they came from texas freight shipping is a bitch... look them up 8 or 13 gallon ez-stor square bucketI said I didn't see more than $400, Retail price. I'm guessing the 4 bucket system costs around $80 to manufacture, + the air and water pump they probably get for $60 each. About $200 cost to manufacture the 4 bucket system that sells for $900. I've never looked at the UC systems and I'm not knocking their quality so it's not "bitching" it's asking a legitimate question. I was just really surprised how popular they are when the only thing you can't get off the shelf is their custom sized buckets which are made by the thousands in china for a couple bucks apiece.
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