wreign
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Hey growers!
have been trying to improve my yield for 3 cycles and while slowly improving still far from the norm I see everyone talking about ....1g/w..50g/sf...etc. Would really appreciate some feedback from experienced growers here.
Here's my setup:
Veg
- separate veg room with LEDS. Getting about 200PPFD at the canopy
- when they are about 20 inches i transplant into 7gals and veg them in flower room for another month
- no problems in veg
- I now veg until they are 36-40 inches tall (not counting the container) before I flip
- have tried flipping at 20 inches, 24 inches, 30 inches, 36 and 42 inches
Flower
- promix
- 12 1000w DE's
- start flower at 600w ramp up to 1000w by day 10, run 1100w until week 6
- during the first 6 weeks they are getting about 700PPFD at the canopy
- last two weeks I dial down to 750w and they are at 450PPFD
- leaf temp is never above 78F
- i have tried 9, 6, 5, 4 and 3 plans per light
- light space is 4x5
- pretty much veg until all space is filled then flip
- i lollipop, use SOG net and fill the squares
- my last run i had about 12-18 tops per plant
- use pro mix, veg in 1 gals, transplant into 7 gals, veg some more then flip
- no CO2
- water every other day for the first 3 weeks, then once per day for 4-6, then back to every other day, last week about once every 3 days
- nutes are 800-1100 during first half of the flower, then 700 till the end
- i go heavy on potash after week 3 all the way until week 6-7
- generally do not have any nutes, ash, quality issues. smoke is great, taste is awesome no complaints
- full air circulation
My problem:
- Ive run 3 cycles
- 1st cycle .6/lb per light had lost of heat problems
- 2nd cycle .75 per light still some heat problems
- 3rd cycle 1.25 per light solved heat problems
- last cycle was the best one to date, had 4 plants under a bulb and flipped at 38inches on average. each plant filled a 2x2+ was getting just a bit crowded but manageable. got just over 4 oz per plant.
My production cost per lb is $400, not counting labour. I need to hit 1.5lb per light in order to make this sustainable. Ideally 2lb so I get to that 1g/w.
Some Ideas im considering trying to increase yield:
- i will be adding lights to VEG room so I can grow to desired size all the way there but this will not solve the flower room yield problem
- upgading to LEDs is not an option at this time
- I dont want to run CO2 until i have fully maximized everything else
- one option is to water less but more frequently, maybe downsize pots to 5 gal so they dryback faster and water daily
- or do drip feed twice per day
- introduce foliar spray Ive researched some stuff that can boost yield by 20% or so they claim
- run lights closer to the canopy, cut to 800w and run like 2 feet away, ive measured can boost PPFD to about 800 so 15% more from current levels
- add MH bulb last 10 days
- add oxygen pump and oxygen meter to aim for 45% dyssolved oxygen
I'm sure I missed a few things. I should also add that while this is my 3rd run in this setup I have been growing a while back but took a break for a few years. I have never gotten more than 1lb per 1000w but back than was doing 20-25 2 gals in 4x4 with 2 week veg.
Thank you in advance!
have been trying to improve my yield for 3 cycles and while slowly improving still far from the norm I see everyone talking about ....1g/w..50g/sf...etc. Would really appreciate some feedback from experienced growers here.
Here's my setup:
Veg
- separate veg room with LEDS. Getting about 200PPFD at the canopy
- when they are about 20 inches i transplant into 7gals and veg them in flower room for another month
- no problems in veg
- I now veg until they are 36-40 inches tall (not counting the container) before I flip
- have tried flipping at 20 inches, 24 inches, 30 inches, 36 and 42 inches
Flower
- promix
- 12 1000w DE's
- start flower at 600w ramp up to 1000w by day 10, run 1100w until week 6
- during the first 6 weeks they are getting about 700PPFD at the canopy
- last two weeks I dial down to 750w and they are at 450PPFD
- leaf temp is never above 78F
- i have tried 9, 6, 5, 4 and 3 plans per light
- light space is 4x5
- pretty much veg until all space is filled then flip
- i lollipop, use SOG net and fill the squares
- my last run i had about 12-18 tops per plant
- use pro mix, veg in 1 gals, transplant into 7 gals, veg some more then flip
- no CO2
- water every other day for the first 3 weeks, then once per day for 4-6, then back to every other day, last week about once every 3 days
- nutes are 800-1100 during first half of the flower, then 700 till the end
- i go heavy on potash after week 3 all the way until week 6-7
- generally do not have any nutes, ash, quality issues. smoke is great, taste is awesome no complaints
- full air circulation
My problem:
- Ive run 3 cycles
- 1st cycle .6/lb per light had lost of heat problems
- 2nd cycle .75 per light still some heat problems
- 3rd cycle 1.25 per light solved heat problems
- last cycle was the best one to date, had 4 plants under a bulb and flipped at 38inches on average. each plant filled a 2x2+ was getting just a bit crowded but manageable. got just over 4 oz per plant.
My production cost per lb is $400, not counting labour. I need to hit 1.5lb per light in order to make this sustainable. Ideally 2lb so I get to that 1g/w.
Some Ideas im considering trying to increase yield:
- i will be adding lights to VEG room so I can grow to desired size all the way there but this will not solve the flower room yield problem
- upgading to LEDs is not an option at this time
- I dont want to run CO2 until i have fully maximized everything else
- one option is to water less but more frequently, maybe downsize pots to 5 gal so they dryback faster and water daily
- or do drip feed twice per day
- introduce foliar spray Ive researched some stuff that can boost yield by 20% or so they claim
- run lights closer to the canopy, cut to 800w and run like 2 feet away, ive measured can boost PPFD to about 800 so 15% more from current levels
- add MH bulb last 10 days
- add oxygen pump and oxygen meter to aim for 45% dyssolved oxygen
I'm sure I missed a few things. I should also add that while this is my 3rd run in this setup I have been growing a while back but took a break for a few years. I have never gotten more than 1lb per 1000w but back than was doing 20-25 2 gals in 4x4 with 2 week veg.
Thank you in advance!