Cap's SCROG discussion

[ftwendy]

Fire away @Capulator .... great discussion.

 

[ftwendy]

This is a continuation from a tangential discussion started at:

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...-wifi-x-sour-d-and.38592/page-24#post-1166343

 

[xX Kid Twist Xx]

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i actually have a trellis idea similar to yours cap but its adjustable.

 

[PaperStreet]

View attachment 363354 View attachment 363355 View attachment 363356 View attachment 363357 View attachment 363358 View attachment 363359 View attachment 363360 View attachment 363361 View attachment 363362 View attachment 363363 i actually have a trellis idea similar to yours cap but its adjustable.

Awesome i was gonna ask if u would repost that man i will be getting into this real soon!

 

[xX Kid Twist Xx]

thats a 4 light room so they are individual in a 6 light room i have them together in 2s. so only 1 pole and they are connected with a T so the trellis for 2 lights moves as 1

 

[aSilvrHaze]

This is fucking genius!!! I've been thinking of a way to make something similar to this, but this just makes it so simple.

 

[Tank333]

Those are really slick! I personally prefer to have individual screens for the plants. It makes it easier to work in the tight space I have...

 

[Capulator]

Just so you guys know they make a 4 way pvc fitting That will make your pvc projects much easier. I like flexpvc.com. @xX Kid Twist Xx killer idea on the movable screen.

Here is what I was trying to show you earlier @ftwendy ... so when I say that using clothesline ran back and forth is much easier at harvest, I speak from experience.

There is no weaving. The plants want to grow up, and you just keep forcing them down under the screen and in whatever direction you want.



After 2-2.5 weeks of stretch I let them all grow up through the screen like this (this tangerine dream stretched a little more than she was supposed to but it will be fine). Then I go under the skirts and clean them up at the end of week 3.

Here is another shot of the clothesline. I will take another pic in a couple weeks of this same bed. The best part fo this method is harvesting. You cut one side (where the line wraps the pipe), and pull the strings through, and then cut the base of the plant and pull it right out. It's fast and easy. With the metal screen I can't do this. You have to cut branches or cut out part of the screen, or both.

 

[PaperStreet]

Just so you guys know they make a 4 way pvc fitting That will make your pvc projects much easier. I like flexpvc.com. @xX Kid Twist Xx killer idea on the movable screen.

Here is what I was trying to show you earlier @ftwendy ... so when I say that using clothesline ran back and forth is much easier at harvest, I speak from experience.

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There is no weaving. The plants want to grow up, and you just keep forcing them down under the screen and in whatever direction you want.



After 2-2.5 weeks of stretch I let them all grow up through the screen like this (this tangerine dream stretched a little more than she was supposed to but it will be fine). Then I go under the skirts and clean them up at the end of week 3.

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Here is another shot of the clothesline. I will take another pic in a couple weeks of this same bed. The best part fo this method is harvesting. You cut one side (where the line wraps the pipe), and pull the strings through, and then cut the base of the plant and pull it right out. It's fast and easy. With the metal screen I can't do this. You have to cut branches or cut out part of the screen, or both.

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Is that a 90 T fitting on the corners? Phucking impressively pimp man idk why its so overwhelming trying to wrap my head around working a screen i just have to do it on a light and see whats up n just get it over with!

 

[ftwendy]

That's super tight Cap -- and same to you KidTwist. Both of you have very well thought out solutions.

@Capulator why haven't you run another rope, perpendicular to the one you have woven? Seems like more support, more anchor points etc, exactly like the fence, and still the same ease of removal as what you have pictured. Yes?

 

[Capulator]

That's super tight Cap -- and same to you KidTwist. Both of you have very well thought out solutions.

@Capulator why haven't you run another rope, perpendicular to the one you have woven? Seems like more support, more anchor points etc, exactly like the fence, and still the same ease of removal as what you have pictured. Yes?

it's unecessary. you can tuck under or over both ways.

 

[urbanfog]

nice, running my first scrog, this kicks in ideas :D

 

[ftwendy]

it's unecessary. you can tuck under or over both ways.

Roger homey. Please post a couple update shots as this round progresses so we can see what you mean.

Thanks and happy New Year! Cheers, ftw

 

[xX Kid Twist Xx]

@Capulator some of the homedepots or lowes would have a few 4 ways but it was never really in stock. and building quite a few of these trelis's it just worked out easier this way, but 4 ways was the first choice. the poles out now not so under the light and the pots can be moved easier so its been ok. can adjust it to any size and the trelis netting they sell at home depot can be used to screen it. wheather you need a 3x3 4x4 or 5x5 space under your light. this set up was all kens gdp and the guy has a 4 light room and wanted a 5x5 space under each light. we hit 7 lbs was his first run hes since cut them down to a closer 4x4 space. the poles are actually screwed down to the floors or wood blocks if on concrete threw a cap and washer.

 

[Bangarang]

I have always wondered about using rigid metal fence as a screen? Does the metal retain heat from the lights? If you foliar do the get rusty? I guess an easy fix would be to use the coated fence material?
The metal seems like the way to go because there is no way that the plant is going to lift it.

 

[Smoking Gun]

I have always wondered about using rigid metal fence as a screen? Does the metal retain heat from the lights? If you foliar do the get rusty? I guess an easy fix would be to use the coated fence material?
The metal seems like the way to go because there is no way that the plant is going to lift it.

The thicker the metal the more heat it will retain.

 

[Medusa]

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Predrilled holes so the trellis can be lifted to dif heights? Brillant !!

 

[zeke]

I use a similar trellis system. I use 1 inch PVC and a clear plastic fishing line material trellis. I use removable legs to adjust trellis height. I have one set of taller legs for set up. The taller legs move the trellis out of the way so I can position pots and drip lines. When the plants are in position I simple switch out the taller legs for the shorter legs to get the appropriate canopy height. Whatever you do, do not weave any branches. Just push them down under the trellis. If you weave you will hate it when you harvest.

 

[midwestdensies]

I use a similar trellis system. I use 1 inch PVC and a clear plastic fishing line material trellis. I use removable legs to adjust trellis height. I have one set of taller legs for set up. The taller legs move the trellis out of the way so I can position pots and drip lines. When the plants are in position I simple switch out the taller legs for the shorter legs to get the appropriate canopy height. Whatever you do, do not weave any branches. Just push them down under the trellis. If you weave you will hate it when you harvest.

I disagree I weave and yield like a mofo.

 

[zeke]

I prefer to keep the growth tips under the trellis as the plants begin flowering. As they grow up, I flatten them back down. Constantly expanding the surface area occupied. Two to three weeks of that and I let the tops rise through the trellis. The stretch is usually sorted out with most strains by this time and the flowers finish up within a month or so six to eight inches above the trellis. I prefer to harvest plants alive and whole. If a plant is not woven throughout the trellis then it can easily be removed whole. Weaving works well for plant support. Whole plant removal is quite difficult without cutting the trellis. I use a couple of easily removable twist ties to support the plant. Still a pain to find and remove all the ties but less of a pain than unweaving or replacing the trellis. Most strains support themselves well enough once the colas are growing up through the trellis.